The Apprentice - November 4th

[calf]

First off, all's forgiven there fotze

Second...dunno if I agree with that firing. I would have fired Kevin as he was so adament over that one sleazy contractor, who ended up being pure :doo: Oh well, Kelly's going to win the thing anyways IMHO.

Third...how in the hell could Robin resist Raj's charm? Beats me

[Jiggy_12]

Ivana is so useless...how in the heck is she still around?

[nik-]

I love Robin. Good move by Raj ... but his ass got rejected twice in a span of 60 seconds.

[calf]

Yea, Ivana makes me angry...she seems so fake

Any bets on the winner? My $$$ is on Kelly...strong leader, execute a plan, can grab his ppl by the scruff of their neck and get them to work

[JiriHrdina]

Good on Raj for standing up to Trump, or at least trying to. His point of whether or not Trump wanted him to be the best politican of bringing a sacrificial lamb was valid. Too many of the left-over candidates are only there because they flew under the radar (Ivana, Maria to name two). Where as candidates that have stepped up and taken risks (which according to Trump is a big part of succeeding in business) get fired. Lame.

Tonight's edition was basically nothing to do with who was the best leader - it came down to who picked the best contractor. Pretty p*ss poor means of evaluation if you ask me.

Moreover, now one of the best "characters" is gone. Like him or hate him Raj was pretty damn entertaining.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally posted by JiriHrdina@Nov 5 2004, 12:40 AM
Tonight's edition was basically nothing to do with who was the best leader - it came down to who picked the best contractor. Pretty p*ss poor means of evaluation if you ask me.

Moreover, now one of the best "characters" is gone. Like him or hate him Raj was pretty damn entertaining.

Not necessarily, I think the choices each team made would have made an impact on resale value, and Raj's dogged determination to make the place a 3 bedroom place would have torpedoed them regardless of contractors.

I'm not sorry to see Raj go. Definately entertaining but that guy's just plain wrong a lot of the time in his vision. From the bedrooms today to the NYPD Police State video he was adamant about, it was time to answer for that. (I though he would have been tossed last episode, if Elizabeth wasn't as strong as wet cardboard). It's one thing to charge ahead with your vision, but you've got to be right!

I'm pulling for Jen, if only for the hot factor... B)

[RougeUnderoos]

What a dimwit that bad contractor was. Ditch all other jobs and do this one right and you've got a million at least in free advertising man! Instead he had a couple slack-asses eating tacos representing his business and fouling the whole thing up.

The contractors on the other side get a 5 second shot of their logo on NBC and come across looking like the greatest crew in the world. They'll get more dough out of that segment than any contestant on the show. Every dork in town is going to be trying to hire "those gangsters from The Apprentice".

[Mango]

Originally posted by JiriHrdina@Nov 4 2004, 11:40 PM
Moreover, now one of the best "characters" is gone. Like him or hate him Raj was pretty damn entertaining.

I agree. I did find him annoying, but, on the other hand, he was entertaining too. He was the one that tried to pick up Anna in an early episode and got pelted with tennis balls as he ran around the stadium seats.

[Cowperson]

Jennifer is going to win. Kelly second.

Raj . . . . . . he'd already irritated Trump for "inappropriate behaviour" in hitting on those models a while back, then the military police idea then the wrong plan for this week.

But there are still people on that show who should be gone first.

Nice set up for next week by the guy who spoke out in the boardroom. That'll be Bradford Part Deux.

Cowperson

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally posted by Cowperson@Nov 5 2004, 08:27 AM

Nice set up for next week by the guy who spoke out in the boardroom. That'll be Bradford Part Deux.

Yeah, that guy was flying under the radar pretty good until he decided to open his trap.

He's got a masssive bulls-eye on him next week. Should be a good one.

BTW..........I think Kelly is going to win a s well, with Jen finishing second.

[Cowperson]

A pretty snippy column on the Raj firing last night at MSNBC.com

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6411934/

Cowperson

[Clarkey]

In my opinion Jen is NOT hot, she is actually quite homely. Added with the fact that she seems like a really mean conniving person. In every interview she finds a way to bash another contestant and she really hasn't done much (besides washing a bunch of dogs).

Personally I would hire Andy or Kevin. They are both level headed, well spoken, confident, respectful, have good educational backgrounds and have proven that they have leadership potential. Andy is a bit young so it is tough for him to earn the respect of the others but I think he has done well despite of that. Trump values a good education and Andy definately has that.

Kelly is a dolt and hasn't shown much creativity or personality. I wouldn't hire him with his condescending attitude. However I think he might be Trump's type. I thought Bill from the last apprentice was a loser with no personality or leadership skills and he hired him.

The rest of them are useless. So Andy or Kevin it is.

[Clarkey]

Oh yeah and what's wrong with taking out a bedroom and adding a bathroom?? That looked like a middle-high income white neighbourhood, so the typical clientel is probably a nuclear family, parents and 2 kids. They don't need another bedroom they need a bathroom upstairs where the bedrooms are. Heck if bedrooms are so important maybe Rajjy should have subdivided the 4 bedrooms up into 8 pigeon holes. I found Trumps absolute statement "4 bedrooms are always better than 3" to be quite annoying.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Jen Homely? Umm OK to each his own I guess. If Trump values a good education he'd be all over Jen for sure then:

Jennifer, 30, received her undergraduate degree from Princeton in English and her law degree from Harvard. She graduated magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from Princeton, and was nominated for the Pyne Prize, Princeton's highest honor.

I'd like Kevin to win too. Seems like a good guy, him trying to salvage the NYPD commercial with Elizabeth while everyone else gave up comes to mind.

Andy's just too young to take it all. Reminds me of that Star Trek episode when Captain Picard and a bunch of others became "kids" again.... boys acting trying to act like men... :P

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally posted by Clarkey@Nov 5 2004, 10:26 AM
Oh yeah and what's wrong with taking out a bedroom and adding a bathroom?? That looked like a middle-high income white neighbourhood, so the typical clientel is probably a nuclear family, parents and 2 kids. They don't need another bedroom they need a bathroom upstairs where the bedrooms are. Heck if bedrooms are so important maybe Rajjy should have subdivided the 4 bedrooms up into 8 pigeon holes. I found Trumps absolute statement "4 bedrooms are always better than 3" to be quite annoying.

I take it you haven't been house or condo shopping lately then? My 1 bedroom +den condo, at 840 sq feet, will never be worth as much as someone who has a 2 bedroom condo of similar or slightly larger square footage.

I agree it's illogical a lot of the time but it's a psychological thing, like hearing V6 engine, even when a good 4 cylinder is just as good.

[Clarkey]

Originally posted by I-Hate-Hulse+Nov 5 2004, 04:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (I-Hate-Hulse @ Nov 5 2004, 04:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Clarkey@Nov 5 2004, 10:26 AM
Oh yeah and what's wrong with taking out a bedroom and adding a bathroom?? That looked like a middle-high income white neighbourhood, so the typical clientel is probably a nuclear family, parents and 2 kids. They don't need another bedroom they need a bathroom upstairs where the bedrooms are. Heck if bedrooms are so important maybe Rajjy should have subdivided the 4 bedrooms up into 8 pigeon holes. I found Trumps absolute statement "4 bedrooms are always better than 3" to be quite annoying.

I take it you haven't been house or condo shopping lately then? My 1 bedroom +den condo, at 840 sq feet, will never be worth as much as someone who has a 2 bedroom condo of similar or slightly larger square footage.

I agree it's illogical a lot of the time but it's a psychological thing, like hearing V6 engine, even when a good 4 cylinder is just as good. [/b][/quote]
There is also a psychological thing about having an extra bathroom. Come on 4 bedrooms and only 1 bathroom, none anywhere near the bedrooms?

No I haven't been condo shopping lately. And I know what you are saying but I think it's different in this case.

Back to Jen, I think the blonde hair is throwing you off brotha! She's not that attractive. With that said I admit when I saw the first couple episodes where they didn't show her up close much I thought she was pretty good too. But alas, she's just a 3 dressed up as a 9.

[looooob]

Originally posted by Clarkey@Nov 5 2004, 10:18 AM
In my opinion Jen is NOT hot, she is actually quite homely. Added with the fact that she seems like a really mean conniving person. In every interview she finds a way to bash another contestant and she really hasn't done much (besides washing a bunch of dogs).

Personally I would hire Andy or Kevin. They are both level headed, well spoken, confident, respectful, have good educational backgrounds and have proven that they have leadership potential. Andy is a bit young so it is tough for him to earn the respect of the others but I think he has done well despite of that. Trump values a good education and Andy definately has that.

Kelly is a dolt and hasn't shown much creativity or personality. I wouldn't hire him with his condescending attitude. However I think he might be Trump's type. I thought Bill from the last apprentice was a loser with no personality or leadership skills and he hired him.

The rest of them are useless. So Andy or Kevin it is.

I would disagree with your take on Kelly.

the guy has impressed me with his creativity. he even took a hand in designing some fashions for the "lets make sure the women win at least one challenge" fashion show episode

I think Kelly is the strongest player, followed probably by Kevin and Jen. Wes might be up there too, although he has been weak at times

Maria and Ivana are useless
I have not seen enough good things from Chris and Bridal salon lady
and Andy is a bit green

as many have speculated I think Jen and Kelly are the final 2, and Trump tips the gender balance in Jen's favor

[looooob]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Nov 5 2004, 01:51 AM
What a dimwit that bad contractor was. Ditch all other jobs and do this one right and you've got a million at least in free advertising man! Instead he had a couple slack-asses eating tacos representing his business and fouling the whole thing up.

The contractors on the other side get a 5 second shot of their logo on NBC and come across looking like the greatest crew in the world. They'll get more dough out of that segment than any contestant on the show. Every dork in town is going to be trying to hire "those gangsters from The Apprentice".

LOL, my thoughts exactly

at first I wondered how that team got the entire 'family' to work on the house for under 20K, until I realized what a brilliant PR move that was

[moon]

I don't think that Jen is very good looking either. Also she seems to so nothing at all since the first two shows. I don't know why she thinks she is so good she often just stands around and never makes suggestions.

I don't know what the hell Chris was thinking. He was about the only one who did not come out looking bad and then he opens his big yap and very well could have been fired had Raj brought him in to the boardroom.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally posted by Clarkey@Nov 5 2004, 04:18 PM
In my opinion Jen is NOT hot, she is actually quite homely. Added with the fact that she seems like a really mean conniving person. In every interview she finds a way to bash another contestant and she really hasn't done much (besides washing a bunch of dogs).

I have to agree with you that Jen is not very hot, but she is probably the brightest one out there, and shes the odds on favorite to win this thing.

She was the only woman not caught up in the "heathers" thing at the beginning and the blasting of Ivana this week and Elizabeth last week was totally called for. Ivana is so stupid. I am so ashamed to be asian after watching her performance.