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Old 06-19-2007, 08:34 AM   #1
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From the Daily Telegraph in London . . . some subtle humour for fans of the English language.

Eager to preserve the English language against a rising tide of nonsense, we asked readers to compose a piece of prose crammed with as many infuriating phrases as possible. Christopher Howse is amazed and amused by the torrent of replies...

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I hear what you're saying but, with all due respect, it's not exactly rocket science. Basically, at the end of the day, the fact of the matter is you have got to be able to tick all the boxes. It's not the end of the world, but, to be perfectly honest with you, when push comes to shove, you don't want to be literally stuck between a rock and a hard place. Going forward we need to be singing from the same songsheet but you can't see the wood from the trees. Naturally hindsight is 20/20 vision and you have to take the rough with the smooth before proceeding onwards and upwards. The bottom line is you wear your heart on your sleeve and, when all is said and done, this is all part and parcel of the ongoing bigger picture. C'est la vie (if you know what I mean).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Cont...&site=4&page=0

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Old 06-19-2007, 09:51 AM   #2
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I love this kind of stuff--though I do sometimes wonder if there's a touch of elitism among those who are self-anointed guardians of the language. After all, what's being made fun of (for the most part) is two things: working-class diction, and professional jargon. The pluralist in me says that how the working classes talk isn't "wrong"--it's just how they use language. And the academic in me sees a purpose for professional jargon, even when it seems impenetrable to people who aren't in the profession.

At the same time, many of the things that annoy the authors also annoy me--like excessive use of question marks when you're not asking questions.

My favourite example from the link:
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To be honest with you, I'm pressurised 24/7. I'm literally in pieces.
People use "literally" to mean "figuratively" all the time. (in fact, James Joyce does this in "The Dead" as a kind of sly joke on 20th century language use--but my "English nerd" colours are showing...) It kind of drives me nuts.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:22 AM   #3
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Surprisingly, the word "irony/ironic" wasnt mentione once.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:28 AM   #4
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We need more writers like Robert Kroetsch and Sid Marty ... writers who can skillfully and appropriately combine poetry, prose and gutter talk and raise the use of language to the level of art. Instead we get more speech & PR writers.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:44 AM   #5
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People use "literally" to mean "figuratively" all the time. (in fact, James Joyce does this in "The Dead" as a kind of sly joke on 20th century language use--but my "English nerd" colours are showing...) It kind of drives me nuts.
That drives someone else on here batty as well. Captain Crunch or Hulkrogan? Maybe both.

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Old 06-19-2007, 01:04 PM   #6
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How about this sentence:
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Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
And Yes, it is gramatically correct. link
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How about this sentence:
And Yes, it is gramatically correct. link
Bullsh*t!
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Bullsh*t!
Care to expand on that?
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buffalo ---> bull
i guess i meant buffalo sh*t?
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How about this sentence:
And Yes, it is gramatically correct. link


Hah. That made my day. I'll have to remember that one for my students.
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One that drives me nuts is one of my co-workers "unthaws" stuff for dinner. When I ask him why he is freezing stuff he wants to cook for dinner, he just looks at me blankly....
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buffalo ---> bull
i guess i meant buffalo sh*t?
So you don't believe it?
I guess you can debate with professional linguists if you want to try and convince them. Here's their mailing list.
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So you don't believe it?
I guess you can debate with professional linguists if you want to try and convince them. Here's their mailing list.
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Yes, i do believe it. I was simply trying to be a linguini myself by using bull instead of buffalo, since they went to great pains to only use buffalo, and a bull is somewhat like a buffalo.

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Yes, i do believe it. I was simply trying to be a linguini myself by using bull instead of buffalo, since they went to great pains to only use buffalo, and a bull is somewhat like a buffalo.

Sheeesh.
Sorry, it has been a looong few weeks. I need a beer - stat!
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