10-23-2004, 09:25 AM
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Not sure if anyone will be interested in this but ahead of Remembrance Day its always useful to reflect back on those who went overseas to fight for your freedom, this time a story of the nearly 100,000 Canadians who were fighting their way through Italy when Allies invaded France, thus earning the moniker "D-Day Dodgers."
http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpos...4d-e3e509c560a0
As a sidenote, if you want to read an often comical but also sobering anti-war book, pick up a copy of Farley Mowat's first person account of his soldiering in the Canadian infantry in the Italian campaign described in the attached story.
Mowat went off to war with an eagerness common at the time but which many of us might not comprehend. He left a shattered man.
The book is called: "And No Birds Sang."
Cowperson
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10-23-2004, 09:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cowperson@Oct 23 2004, 09:25 AM
Not sure if anyone will be interested in this but ahead of Remembrance Day its always useful to reflect back on those who went overseas to fight for your freedom, this time a story of the nearly 100,000 Canadians who were fighting their way through Italy when Allies invaded France, thus earning the moniker "D-Day Dodgers."
http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpos...4d-e3e509c560a0
As a sidenote, if you want to read an often comical but also sobering anti-war book, pick up a copy of Farley Mowat's first person account of his soldiering in the Canadian infantry in the Italian campaign described in the attached story.
Mowat went off to war with an eagerness common at the time but which many of us might not comprehend. He left a shattered man.
The book is called: "And No Birds Sang."
Cowperson
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Apparently almost none of the book is true either.
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10-23-2004, 09:44 AM
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CP Pontiff
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A pasture out by Millarville
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Originally posted by peter12+Oct 23 2004, 03:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peter12 @ Oct 23 2004, 03:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Cowperson@Oct 23 2004, 09:25 AM
Not sure if anyone will be interested in this but ahead of Remembrance Day its always useful to reflect back on those who went overseas to fight for your freedom, this time a story of the nearly 100,000 Canadians who were fighting their way through Italy when Allies invaded France, thus earning the moniker "D-Day Dodgers."
http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpos...4d-e3e509c560a0
As a sidenote, if you want to read an often comical but also sobering anti-war book, pick up a copy of Farley Mowat's first person account of his soldiering in the Canadian infantry in the Italian campaign described in the attached story.
Mowat went off to war with an eagerness common at the time but which many of us might not comprehend. He left a shattered man.
The book is called: "And No Birds Sang."
Cowperson
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Apparently almost none of the book is true either. [/b][/quote]
I believe Mowat was accused of contrivances in "Never Cry Wolf," "People of the Deer" and "The Desperate People" detailing his alleged experiences in the Canadian Arctic.
There are no challeges I'm aware of regarding his wartime experiences and the book "And No Birds Sang." It would be hard to go too far astray with hundreds of witnesses in his battalion as well as military records and histories likely backing him up.
A summary of the allegations in the three books named:
http://www.canoe.ca/JamBooksFeatures/mowat_may5.html
Mowat's response:
http://www.canoe.ca/JamBooksFeatures/mowat_may6.html
A third party examination of the charges and aftermath.
http://www.salon.com/people/bc/1999/...at/index1.html
Cowperson
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10-23-2004, 11:30 AM
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Hmm well I stand corrected. It is a really good read if it is true.
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10-23-2004, 11:36 AM
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There's a good companion book to "No birds sang" I think it was called my fathers son and it was all of the letters that he wrote home during his time in basic training, England and Italy during the war.
Old Mowat was quite the collector, getting his hands on a ton of german war equipment towards the end of the war.
He might be a bunny stroking tree hugger, but he's a great writer.
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10-23-2004, 11:42 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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There are a bunch of great books out there on CDN Mill hist (it's my minor so hang on)...including:
JUNO BEACH (Mark Zuehlke) is a great look at D-day on the CDN beach and the lead up to it...a good read that is very entertaning
VIMY and MARCHING AS TO WAR (both Pierre Berton) are very good, easy hist books to read. The former looks as the WWI battle of the same name that some trace as the start of Canada as its own nation. The latter looks at 4 wars and how Canada did through them.
I need to go but i'll add some other books...who says CDN hist is boring?
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10-23-2004, 11:54 AM
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Vimy is one of the best books I have ever read.
Who does say Canadian history sucks? They could make a war movie about Vimy that would blow any war movie away.
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10-23-2004, 12:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainCrunch@Oct 23 2004, 11:36 AM
He might be a bunny stroking tree hugger, but he's a great writer.
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A bunny stroking tree hugger?
That seems a bit out of line in reference to someone who fought for their country in World War II.
Courage aside, you would have to have some degree of mental toughness to come back from World War II and the term "tree hugger" trivializes his contribution towards our freedom.
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10-23-2004, 01:23 PM
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Norm!
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Originally posted by Reaper+Oct 23 2004, 06:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Reaper @ Oct 23 2004, 06:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CaptainCrunch@Oct 23 2004, 11:36 AM
He might be a bunny stroking tree hugger, but he's a great writer.
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A bunny stroking tree hugger?
That seems a bit out of line in reference to someone who fought for their country in World War II.
Courage aside, you would have to have some degree of mental toughness to come back from World War II and the term "tree hugger" trivializes his contribution towards our freedom. [/b][/quote]
nothing of the sort, he's a strong environmentalist so I used the phrase of the day, bunny stroking tree hugger. Its nothing derogatory towards his character or bravery at all.
Hey at least he's not a vegan
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