Kerry demands equal time on Sinclair broadcast

[Cowperson]

John F. Kerry's campaign demanded yesterday that Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc. provide his campaign equal time after broadcasting a movie attacking his Vietnam record, but the company said it is holding out for an interview with the Democratic nominee himself.

"Stolen Honor" features 17 former prisoners of war who say that Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony about atrocities in Vietnam had the effect of extending their captivity. It was made by Vietnam veteran Carlton Sherwood, who shared a 1980 Pulitzer Prize at Gannett News Service and more recently was an aide to Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge.

Hyman said the charges of veterans "who were brutally tortured" should not be ignored, and he did not back off a comment that the networks "are acting like Holocaust deniers, pretending these men don't exist." Sinclair is not doing a special on Bush, he said, because no new information has surfaced to warrant one.

Nasty!!!

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2004Oct15.html

Cowperson

[sjwalter]

Democracy is not in works here, but the company is independently owned, so he doesn't have to listen to what Kerry has to say.

I'm glad they're showing it, the people need to know what type of person they might have as their next president.

[Mike F]

Originally posted by sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 10:21 AM
I'm glad they're showing it, the people need to know what type of person they might have as their next president.

But will this documentary help clarify what type of person he is, or distort what type of person he is?

[CaramonLS]

Originally posted by sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 05:21 PM
Democracy is not in works here, but the company is independently owned, so he doesn't have to listen to what Kerry has to say.

I'm glad they're showing it, the people need to know what type of person they might have as their next president.

So this is going to be a factual Documentry aired with its only intentions being is that the truth be shown about John Kerry?

Sure thing.

[Flame On]

Originally posted by sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 05:21 PM
Democracy is not in works here, but the company is independently owned, so he doesn't have to listen to what Kerry has to say.

I'm glad they're showing it, the people need to know what type of person they might have as their next president.

Excellent. Everything is transpiring according to my plan. The people keep their head in the clouds, question nothing and are mallable. I'm affraid the deflector shield will be quite opperational when your friends arrive.....sorry, carried away there. You get the point.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally posted by sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 05:21 PM
Democracy is not in works here, but the company is independently owned, so he doesn't have to listen to what Kerry has to say.

I'm glad they're showing it, the people need to know what type of person they might have as their next president.

So you're saying that John Kerry, along with the world, has not changed in 30 years? Alrighty then.



Hey, maybe Sinclair can do the same for Bush and show that he's coke snorting, whore humping, drunk that has never succeeded at anything without his father's help? Well, tjhat's the way he was 20 years ago, so its stillrelevant and shows the people of America the kind of person he is.

[sjwalter]

Originally posted by Lanny_MacDonald+Oct 16 2004, 01:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lanny_MacDonald @ Oct 16 2004, 01:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 05:21 PM
Democracy is not in works here, but the company is independently owned, so he doesn't have to listen to what Kerry has to say.

I'm glad they're showing it, the people need to know what type of person they might have as their next president.

So you're saying that John Kerry, along with the world, has not changed in 30 years? Alrighty then.



Hey, maybe Sinclair can do the same for Bush and show that he's coke snorting, whore humping, drunk that has never succeeded at anything without his father's help? Well, tjhat's the way he was 20 years ago, so its stillrelevant and shows the people of America the kind of person he is. [/b][/quote]
I never said i supported Bush but the people are voting for their leader and they need to know what Kerry has done in the past. As i recall Kerry was the one who carried out these atrocites so he would be the only one to blame right? I'm sure Bush has had problems in his past just like all of us have but he never went before Congress and publicly confessed them like Kerry did.

And if Kerry changed in the past 30 years or not. He came home from Vietnam as anti-war but now wants to keep the troops in Iraq. He supported the War in Iraq at first but didn't most of us until there was no evidence of WMD? Of course he would do anything do be elected president so he backs off from what he supported and said and repeatatly goes back to his Vietnam record and his three Purple Hearts. Ollie North wrote him a letter, a letter from a hero to a coward who runs home after self comending himself for the Purple Hearts so he can be discharged and go home and lead the Anti-War protests. Yes indeed the people of America need to know who they actually are voting for.

And who is better for Canada? Who will open the border to our beef again? Well that remains to be seen.

And if someone could make a movie of Bush's life and all the bad things he has done in the past i would fully support the showing of it.

I wonder if we need a Terroist Attack again to wake some people up that we are in a time of war and Kerry is not a war president because like he ran home from Vietnam he will run from the terroists. Of course he just thinks of them as a nuisance right?

[sjwalter]

Originally posted by Cowperson@Oct 16 2004, 09:51 AM
Sinclair is not doing a special on Bush, he said, because no new information has surfaced to warrant one. [/i]

And the information has surfaced on Kerry. I was hoping the democrats wouldn't pick Kerry simply because of his past knowing that when someone runs for president his past is revealed to the people.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 02:54 PM

I wonder if we need a Terroist Attack again to wake some people up that we are in a time of war and Kerry is not a war president because like he ran home from Vietnam he will run from the terroists. Of course he just thinks of them as a nuisance right?

Ha ha that's good. George Bush (and his VP) do everything under the sun to avoid going to Viet Nam, and a guy who volunteered to go is the coward.

The draft dodger is the war hero, the combat veteran is the candyass. Got it.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by sjwalter+Oct 16 2004, 02:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sjwalter @ Oct 16 2004, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Cowperson@Oct 16 2004, 09:51 AM
Sinclair is not doing a special on Bush, he said, because no new information has surfaced to warrant one. [/i]

And the information has surfaced on Kerry. I was hoping the democrats wouldn't pick Kerry simply because of his past knowing that when someone runs for president his past is revealed to the people. [/b][/quote]
Good point. George's past is golden, and that's why he gets elected. If he hadn't been a coked out, cocktail swilling, draft dodging, inexperienced daddy's boy, he'd have never been elected.

[kipperfan]

Originally posted by sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 08:54 PM
And if someone could make a movie of Bush's life and all the bad things he has done in the past i would fully support the showing of it.

Yeah well thats not gonna happen, not unless Howard Stern is named the new President of NBC.

Come on man.........Bush's life they couldnt show that movie on network tv, theyd have a hard time sneakin that one on to HBO.

Fact is the story of this cocaine sniffing, beer swindling, oil brat presidents son is hardly a noble G rated story.

[sjwalter]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Oct 16 2004, 02:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Oct 16 2004, 02:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 02:54 PM

I wonder if we need a Terroist Attack again to wake some people up that we are in a time of war and Kerry is not a war president because like he ran home from Vietnam he will run from the terroists.# Of course he just thinks of them as a nuisance right?

Ha ha that's good. George Bush (and his VP) do everything under the sun to avoid going to Viet Nam, and a guy who volunteered to go is the coward.

The draft dodger is the war hero, the combat veteran is the candyass. Got it. [/b][/quote]
Exactly my point. Both Kerry and Bush have records they can't avoid, its just that Kerry's has been brought out more.

I don't believe half of it, for the media does good if they get 1 in 10 things right. I am talking about what everyone said about Kerry.

Kerry was an anti-war protesters including many other things, Bush was a drunk, messed up whatever you want to call him. Who do the people vote for?

To me its pointless bringing up the records of the past against presidental candidates because like many have said here, a person can change after 30 years, just like its seems both Bush and Kerry have.

[sjwalter]

And another thing, if both have pasts they want to avoid why doesn't the media avoid it as well and take the person they are now as the guy running for president and not the guy he used to be.......say 20-30 years ago.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally posted by sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 08:54 PM
I wonder if we need a Terroist Attack again to wake some people up that we are in a time of war and Kerry is not a war president because like he ran home from Vietnam he will run from the terroists. Of course he just thinks of them as a nuisance right?

Wow, you have been buying the Republican talking points like a good little citizen. Be afraid, be very afraid of the next terrorist attack! If John Kerry is elected he will be the ruination of our civilization and the Islamic hordes will engulf us!

You are aware that Kerry did TWO tours in Viet Nam? He hardly came "running home" like the Republicans are trying to get you to believe. The man came home, said his piece in support of the anti-war movement the was not alone in doing so) and got on with his life. He did not lose himself in the self pity and time warp that so many vets have. He becames a very useful part of society.

And thank you for bringing up the "nuisance" quote. Another Karl Rove special that was taken completely out of context and the Republicans have run with it. I'll see if I can find the whole context of the quote, but the way it is being used is completely incorrect. It was on Bill Maher last night and it has been blown way out of proportion. Like I said, it has Karl Rove's greasy little fingers all over it.

[sjwalter]

And thank you for bringing up the "nuisance" quote. Another Karl Rove special that was taken completely out of context and the Republicans have run with it. I'll see if I can find the whole context of the quote, but the way it is being used is completely incorrect. It was on Bill Maher last night and it has been blown way out of proportion. Like I said, it has Karl Rove's greasy little fingers all over it.

You're right i know, it just popped into my mind at the time but i know it was taken out of retrospect.

What i mean with the terroist attack is that remember during World War 2, i believe the US never wanted to go clean up Hitler and his deeds basically go to war.........until they were attacked. Same thing is going to happen here. Iraq was the wrong place to go first, North Korea and Iran i think were and are now a more serious threat.

And as much as Bush wants to avoid another Vietnam in Iraq its going to happen, because as that War never had the support of the people back home neither does this one.

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by sjwalter+Oct 16 2004, 08:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sjwalter @ Oct 16 2004, 08:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

So you're saying that John Kerry, along with the world, has not changed in 30 years? Alrighty then.



Hey, maybe Sinclair can do the same for Bush and show that he's coke snorting, whore humping, drunk that has never succeeded at anything without his father's help? Well, tjhat's the way he was 20 years ago, so its stillrelevant and shows the people of America the kind of person he is.

I never said i supported Bush but the people are voting for their leader and they need to know what Kerry has done in the past. As i recall Kerry was the one who carried out these atrocites so he would be the only one to blame right? I'm sure Bush has had problems in his past just like all of us have but he never went before Congress and publicly confessed them like Kerry did.

And if Kerry changed in the past 30 years or not. He came home from Vietnam as anti-war but now wants to keep the troops in Iraq. He supported the War in Iraq at first but didn't most of us until there was no evidence of WMD? Of course he would do anything do be elected president so he backs off from what he supported and said and repeatatly goes back to his Vietnam record and his three Purple Hearts. Ollie North wrote him a letter, a letter from a hero to a coward who runs home after self comending himself for the Purple Hearts so he can be discharged and go home and lead the Anti-War protests. Yes indeed the people of America need to know who they actually are voting for.

And who is better for Canada? Who will open the border to our beef again? Well that remains to be seen.

And if someone could make a movie of Bush's life and all the bad things he has done in the past i would fully support the showing of it.

I wonder if we need a Terroist Attack again to wake some people up that we are in a time of war and Kerry is not a war president because like he ran home from Vietnam he will run from the terroists. Of course he just thinks of them as a nuisance right?

[/b][/quote]
Dude, you've made a huge amount of leaps here that I don't have the time (or will) to argue with. You've made assertions here with zero facts to back them up. At leats try to present this sh*t as if its your opinion, instead of reality.

Cause it's not even close.

[sjwalter]

I don't understand what you mean with assertions. The only assertion i've made is that everything i said is what the media came up with.

Call it fact or opinion, but i won't deny thats its the truth.

[Flame On]

Yeah to stand up and actually try to make a difference after an experience and trying to remidy it based on first hand knowledge, is a lot worse than being a coverup artist & cowerd that uses elitist contacts to secure himself a cozy gig. Or one that trys to shush up coke and DUI charges. Many of the worlds best leaders and military figures (Nelson, Alexander, Napoleon, Churchill) know how to adapt to a situation and change their stance/tactics, in order to prevail or win. Something Bush and his team have convinced half their country is a bad thing.

[Flame On]

Originally posted by sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 10:50 PM
I don't understand what you mean with assertions. The only assertion i've made is that everything i said is what the media came up with.

Call it fact or opinion, but i won't deny thats its the truth.

I think most here stopped reading your post at "I don't understand" and are in full agreement with you there. Anyone dispute this?

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by sjwalter@Oct 16 2004, 10:50 PM
I don't understand what you mean with assertions. The only assertion i've made is that everything i said is what the media came up with.

Call it fact or opinion, but i won't deny thats its the truth.

Glad to oblige :P

In this thread you've made assertions. You've 'recalled' that Kerry was involved in atrocities. This 'recollection' is spurious. You've heard there are allegations that he 'did something bad', and you've apparently guessed that he was involved in a massacre. Unless you mean by 'atrocities' testifying against the war in court.

You've said that Kerry would "do anything to be elected President". Explain and prove this. Would he kill someone?

You called Kerry a "coward who runs home after self comending himself for the Purple Hearts so he can be discharged and go home and lead the Anti-War protests". How did he commend himself for a Purple Heart? By getting wounded? Do you know what a purple heart is?

You claim that Kerry thinks of terrorists as "a nuisance, right?". If you'd bother to listen to him, I'm sure he's never claimed that they were a "nuisance".

You call it fact, sounds good.

I know it's your opinion, regardless of your 'facts'.

Also, not to nitpick, but maybe spend an extra 2 seconds on your grammar. You've got some double negatives and mispoken sentences that make it difficult to understand what you're saying.