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JiriHrdina · 01-29-2007, 11:41 AM

Sad news, but the right decision.

http://www.tsn.ca/tsn/news_story/?ID=194084&hubname=

jam26 · 01-29-2007, 12:23 PM

That is sad news. I was watching the Preakness from the Mirage sportsbook. That place was abuzz for the race, but you could hear a pin-drop as soon as Barbaro pulled up.

There were no celebratory cheers following that race - the sportsbook took on a pretty sombre mood. He was one fast horse...unlike that good-for-nothing bum, Sweetnorthernsaint!

Here's a good article on Barbaro: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...bit/index.html

troutman · 01-29-2007, 12:42 PM

Can't he be cloned?

OilersBaby · 01-29-2007, 02:47 PM

So sad about Barbaro. My husband is from Kentucky and he went to Derby in 2006 and saw Barbaro win. So unfortunate that he suffered from the leg injury at the Preakness. RIP Barbaro

CaptainCrunch · 01-29-2007, 04:38 PM

I was asking the girlfriend about that on the weekend, because after all of the positive talk they just didn't talk about Barbaro anymore. Sad day for a dominant horse.

troutman · 01-29-2007, 06:47 PM

Heard on Jim Rome today:

Our condolences,

Sincerely,

Sarah Jessica Parker, Jerry Seinfeld and the WNBA

Flames in 07 · 01-29-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jam26

That is sad news. I was watching the Preakness from the Mirage sportsbook. That place was abuzz for the race, but you could hear a pin-drop as soon as Barbaro pulled up.

There were no celebratory cheers following that race - the sportsbook took on a pretty sombre mood. He was one fast horse...unlike that good-for-nothing bum, Sweetnorthernsaint!

Here's a good article on Barbaro: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...bit/index.html

I was in TI's at the time, you could hear a pin drop for about 5 minutes afterwards. Quite sad, makes me think twice about the value of horse racing.

VANFLAMESFAN · 01-30-2007, 11:43 AM

Sure, it's sad, but I'm of the mind that it's not even worth mentioning. I know there are people who are gonna rip me and call me an *******, but come on, its a horse, its not a human, its a horse. It's not news when a regular horse dies, so why is it news now??

Now, if you come at me a say, "well, its not news when a regular person dies, so why do we mention it when famous people die", then you're just equating people to animals and thats just plain dumb.

ken0042 · 01-30-2007, 12:31 PM

So, by your reasoning, because a horse is just a "thing" it isn't worth mentioning?

What if the Stanley Cup ended up getting destroyed? Would that not be news worthy? Or worthy of discussion?

VANFLAMESFAN · 01-30-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ken0042

So, by your reasoning, because a horse is just a "thing" it isn't worth mentioning?

What if the Stanley Cup ended up getting destroyed? Would that not be news worthy? Or worthy of discussion?

Didn't say thing, I said animal.

Madman · 01-30-2007, 02:14 PM

Here's my question. Why are horses so quickly put down?

Can a horse not live a life with only 3 legs? With a horsey-wheelchair thing? In a bed or something like that?

It just seems like anything to do with a horse's leg mean instant death for the horse. Maybe someone with a little more Equine knowledge can fill me in.

ken0042 · 01-30-2007, 02:21 PM

Ok VFF, sounds like I am going to have to try and figure out your entire standpoint on the hierarchy of all objects, so I will bow out.

Madman, I'm no horse expert, but from what they said on the news last night they put him down because as the horse becomes accustomed to walking on 3 legs, the sheer weigh of his body puts undue stress on the rest of his ribs, back, spine, etc. So basically the remainder of the horse's life is spent in sheer agony.

JiriHrdina · 01-30-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Sure, it's sad, but I'm of the mind that it's not even worth mentioning. I know there are people who are gonna rip me and call me an *******, but come on, its a horse, its not a human, its a horse. It's not news when a regular horse dies, so why is it news now??

Now, if you come at me a say, "well, its not news when a regular person dies, so why do we mention it when famous people die", then you're just equating people to animals and thats just plain dumb.

No it is because the horse is famous. Famous people and animals are news when they die. Regular every day shmos and animals are not. Its the fame that matters, not whether they are human or beast.

rubecube · 01-30-2007, 05:16 PM

Remember when all those people sent him "Get Well" cards and signs? Bunch of ######s.

Flames in 07 · 01-30-2007, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Didn't say thing, I said animal.

That's a cop out answer, you know what the intent of the question was.

It's quite simple, the horse was famous. Regular people aren't ... interest is deeply impacted by fame.

Also, it's quite clear that you have a hierarchy where you put humans above animals, and that's fine, but just accept that many others don't. And it really doesn't matter what you think of them ... as it doesn't matter what they think of you right?

Lurch · 02-01-2007, 03:54 PM

Bill Simmons (Sports Guy) on Rome yesterday was hilarious with a schtick about whether the Super Bowl should be delayed b/c "It's just too soon - we need some time to get over this." Funny, but from the looks of this thread a few might have found it offensive.

Anyway, the whole Barbaro things reeks of hypocrisy. Horse racing is an absolute meat grinder for these animals, yet when the predictable happens with great frequency, there is a big upswell of sorrow. Barbaro is a horse, and horses are used as meat animals (canners) all over the world.

SpitFire40 · 02-01-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Sure, it's sad, but I'm of the mind that it's not even worth mentioning. I know there are people who are gonna rip me and call me an *******, but come on, its a horse, its not a human, its a horse. It's not news when a regular horse dies, so why is it news now??

Now, if you come at me a say, "well, its not news when a regular person dies, so why do we mention it when famous people die", then you're just equating people to animals and thats just plain dumb.

Boooooooooooo, with that said. I often times have more compassion for animals than humans.

troutman · 02-01-2007, 04:31 PM

Humans seem to have far more sympathy for animals than other humans. I don't know why.

If Fluffy the poodle gets mauled by a coyote at Fish Creek Park, it gets far more attention and Letters to the Editor than most human tragedies.

I do a lot of wills for people - the SPCA will soon be wealthier than the Catholic Church. People seem more likely to make donations to animal charities than anything else.

rubecube · 02-01-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by troutman

the SPCA will soon be wealthier than the Catholic Church.

And that's a bad thing?

Flames in 07 · 02-01-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by troutman

Humans seem to have far more sympathy for animals than other humans. I don't know why.

If Fluffy the poodle gets mauled by a coyote at Fish Creek Park, it gets far more attention and Letters to the Editor than most human tragedies.

I do a lot of wills for people - the SPCA will soon be wealthier than the Catholic Church. People seem more likely to make donations to animal charities than anything else.

That's ok.

The SPCA allows all animals, regardless of sexual orientation, a female can be the leader of the SPCA and they have always believed the planet is round.