Weight loss Supplements

[brownie]

Well like alot of people,its a new year and i wouldnt mind dropping a few pounds.Just wondering if anyone has tried any of those supplements,such as Hydroxycut, Rev or anything like them???Now I know they arent magic and you still have to eat right and work hard to achieve results.But do these products help at all???Or a waste of money??


Thanks Brownie

[Tyler]

Its a multi billion dollar industry that promises people they'll lose weight in large part by doing nothing.

If you go outside and look around, you'll most likely arrive at the conclusion that if these products were actually successful, things would look a lot different.

[CaramonLS]

Those weightloss products actually do work, I know a couple people have used Hydroxycut on this board, I've tried them before and didn't like them.

However, when losing weight with drugs, it is one of the fastest ways to do it, but you can gain it back the fastest as well.

[SpitFire40]

Excercise??

I was at one time was 230lbs. Now do to playing random shinny hockey, or power skating during summer i'm down to 190lbs.

In fact I'm about to go play some shinny right now. Forget these supplements, go and sweat it out.

[fanforever1986]

IMO one of the biggest scams going. People always start working out when they take any of those supplements...and eating better. Those two things are the primary reason they lose weight...but they see the difference in their bodies and hand the credit over to a magical powder. Just eat protein...good carbs...and get some laps in around the track a few times a week...done and done. It's not rocket science.

[SpecialK12]

in my professional opinion - its all about diet (and by that i don't mean dieting). Eating right doesn't have to be boring and it doesn't have mean no treats. As long as the majority of your diet consists of complex carbs (beans, whole wheat grains, etc), vegetables and quality protein - you're laughing.. of course that's accompanied by regular physical activity.

I have tried weight loss supplements myself... and am ashamed to admit as it goes against everything I believe and preach. But at the same time, I now can recommend whole heartedly to people not to do it and speak from experience. The side effects are not nice (jitters, elevated HR, irritability, etc).

It has already been said, and I totally agree... if these supplements were the answer..the world would look alot better.

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by SpitFire40

Excercise??

I was at one time was 230lbs. Now do to playing random shinny hockey, or power skating during summer i'm down to 190lbs.

In fact I'm about to go play some shinny right now. Forget these supplements, go and sweat it out.

Where?

[SpitFire40]

Originally Posted by Wookie

Where?

I go to Signal Hill

[OilersBaby]

They are VERY dangerous...in my professional opinion (well, almost professional..I'm a grad student halfway done my MSc in Nutrition).

However, some people insist on taking them. They work for the short term and then you pile on the lbs quickly. Not safe...most of em aren't even FDA approved. If you do decide to take em, remember to PLEASE consult with your MD beforehand.

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by SpitFire40

I go to Signal Hill

Oh, like outdoor? Hmmm, I'm an outdoor shinny snob,

Although maybe it's worth a try one of these days.

Regarding supplements, waste of money, and honestly you don't know nor can anyone tell you the long term effects.

Listen to SpecialK12.

I eat mostly the same meals all the time, like a dog, but have found things I love.

I make a chili or stew weekly, its mostly tomatoes, various veggies, extra lean ground beef cooked, drained of fat, then slow cooked with the chili. I mix in some brown rice, it's a good carb, high in fibre, and filling. I eat that 5 days a week for lunch.

Breakfast I eat porridge or some of those eggs from a carton, I splurge and add low fat shredded cheese I'll also drink some v8 if I feel I didn't get any veggies for breakfast.

Supper, usually some sort of salad with more brown rice and some minute steak cut up..

I probably fluctuate between 4 - 8% body fat, however I'm pretty religious regarding fitness, but know, that without that I'd still maintain a healthy, low fat, low cholesterol diet, just wouldn't be able to maintain a 200lbs frame.

I'd still like to improve, but the only way to do that is refine some things (do my abs more often, eat a bit less (I have huge servings), maybe train a bit differently, which I'm always trying to improve on).

I've tried supplements here and there.. Never really noticed a change, might have a placebo effect and get me to work harder for a few weeks..

Also maybe find something interesting to keep you going to the gym, like flirting with some cute girl there.. like a lifeguard. haha..

It's mostly about finding a way to enjoy a healthy diet long term. Not to go all out and torture yourself because it's not sustainable. Too many people do this and fail which has a yoyo effect on your weight and goals. People crack and fail. Trying to hard only sets up big failure. Work at it as a lifestyle adjustment. Never a diet.

As well sports are really good for keeping you on track. I run some races, play hockey and swim. It gives you something to keep in shape for. If I didn't do these things maybe I'd lose interest because I wouldn't find my work getting me much. I'm not interested in benching or curling a huge amount, I'm interested in being stronger and more fit for running, hockey and swimming.

I also knew a girl who worked at a GNC. She told me about people who would go in and talk to some of their sales reps. This one guy was a total roid monkey. People would ask how he got so big, he'd tell them protein shakes three times a day, creatine, glutamine, caffeine and ephedrine or hydroxycut. Even though he was a total juice monkey. These people work on commission and often have no idea what they're selling.

I think some of these places are due for a massive class action lawsuit one day.

[OilersBaby]

Originally Posted by Wookie

Oh, like outdoor? Hmmm, I'm an outdoor shinny snob,

Although maybe it's worth a try one of these days.

Regarding supplements, waste of money, and honestly you don't know nor can anyone tell you the long term effects.

Listen to SpecialK12.

I eat mostly the same meals all the time, like a dog, but have found things I love.

I make a chili or stew weekly, its mostly tomatoes, various veggies, extra lean ground beef cooked, drained of fat, then slow cooked with the chili. I mix in some brown rice, it's a good carb, high in fibre, and filling. I eat that 5 days a week for lunch.

Breakfast I eat porridge or some of those eggs from a carton, I splurge and add low fat shredded cheese I'll also drink some v8 if I feel I didn't get any veggies for breakfast.

Supper, usually some sort of salad with more brown rice and some minute steak cut up..

I probably fluctuate between 4 - 8% body fat, however I'm pretty religious regarding fitness, but know, that without that I'd still maintain a healthy, low fat, low cholesterol diet, just wouldn't be able to maintain a 200lbs frame.

I'd still like to improve, but the only way to do that is refine some things (do my abs more often, eat a bit less (I have huge servings), maybe train a bit differently, which I'm always trying to improve on).

I've tried supplements here and there.. Never really noticed a change, might have a placebo effect and get me to work harder for a few weeks..

Also maybe find something interesting to keep you going to the gym, like flirting with some cute girl there.. like a lifeguard. haha..

It's mostly about finding a way to enjoy a healthy diet long term. Not to go all out and torture yourself because it's not sustainable. Too many people do this and fail which has a yoyo effect on your weight and goals. People crack and fail. Trying to hard only sets up big failure. Work at it as a lifestyle adjustment. Never a diet.

As well sports are really good for keeping you on track. I run some races, play hockey and swim. It gives you something to keep in shape for. If I didn't do these things maybe I'd lose interest because I wouldn't find my work getting me much. I'm not interested in benching or curling a huge amount, I'm interested in being stronger and more fit for running, hockey and swimming.

I also knew a girl who worked at a GNC. She told me about people who would go in and talk to some of their sales reps. This one guy was a total roid monkey. People would ask how he got so big, he'd tell them protein shakes three times a day, creatine, glutamine, caffeine and ephedrine or hydroxycut. Even though he was a total juice monkey. These people work on commission and often have no idea what they're selling.

I think some of these places are due for a massive class action lawsuit one day.

Wookie, that's awesome advice, and a great diet too. Your diet sounds well balanced And yes, rather than binge eating (eating 2 or 3 HUGE meals per day, try to eat small portions more frequently). Good stuff otherwise though! And regarding exercise, you're right on the money when you say you have to find something that you enjoy.....cuz otherwise you won't stick to it. For me, I enjoy jogging with my dog (superfast lil jack russell terrier puppy) to get in my cardio (as well as jogging every day for endurance). For strength training, I try to hit the gym 3 times a week (though it usually ends up being two) and do my arms with really light weights..lots of reps. I'm training for yet another marathon though, last time I did the half marathon, hopefully I can do the whole one this time. That goal is what keeps me going.

I live in the Bay Area where everyone is so friggin weight conscious.....but I guess it's good for me.

[Flames89]

I have tried some of them.... but only as a helper.

First, take at least half of the recommended dosage, else you will be buzzing from all the ephedra/caffeine/taurine.

Second, they do help in getting a bit more oomph from your workouts. That is about it.

[return to the red]

I've always been skeptical of any pills that make you lose weight. If they are taking off the lbs then what the hell else are they doing to your body?

Eating right and plenty of excercise is the way to go.

I have a question to all those fitness types though. I eat healthy and go to the gym (weight training) 3 times a week, usually ride the bike for twenty minutes and jump on the rowing machine for 10 minutes 4 times a week, go wall climbing one a week and play badminton for an hour or 2 once a week plus a do situps every night. why the hell can't I get rid of my spare tire?? or does anybody have any excercises they recommend that really works the stomach

[troutman]

http://www.nutriwatch.org/

http://www.ftc.gov/os/2003/12/031209weightlossrpt.pdf

Despite unprecedented levels of law enforcement by the Federal Trade Commission, deceptive weight-loss advertising is rampant. In response to the problem, the agency has identified seven claims that, based on current scientific knowledge, are impossible to fulfill and therefore should be rejected by responsible advertising outlets. The agency's conclusions have been published in a December 2003 staff report called Deception in Weight-loss Advertising Workshop' Seizing Opportunities and Building Partnerships to Stop Weight Loss Fraud. Here's the FTC list plus the report's analysis of each claim.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...lossfraud.html

[troutman]

Originally Posted by return to the red

I have a question to all those fitness types though. I eat healthy and go to the gym (weight training) 3 times a week, usually ride the bike for twenty minutes and jump on the rowing machine for 10 minutes 4 times a week, go wall climbing one a week and play badminton for an hour or 2 once a week plus a do situps every night. why the hell can't I get rid of my spare tire?? or does anybody have any excercises they recommend that really works the stomach

Do you drink a lot of pop and beer?

[return to the red]

Originally Posted by troutman

Do you drink a lot of pop and beer?

No pop and beer about once week if that

[Buff]

I finally found my motivation to get more exercise. I've always known how to lose weight and what is effective for me, but I've never had the motivation to keep working at it. I'd start to work out and it may last for two weeks, but then I'd forget about it for a few months.

Well this past fall (end of summer) I lost weight while I was sick. SHortly after that hockey started up again and I really noticed how much the weight loss effected my game in a positive manner. So I was eager to keep exercising but still couldn't motivate myself to do so more regularily or even to finish my workouts. Then it hit me. I put the bike in front of the tv or computer and I play video games while I'm biking. Just last night I biked for 65 minutes while I played NHL07. There are times when I concentrated so much on the game that I slow down or stop for a couple of seconds, but at least I'm active for 65 minutes instead of sitting down and playing the same game.

As long as you find something that can keep you interested in working out you should do fine with your weight loss. No need to worry about supplements. Work out hard and cut out bad food and drinks.

[speeds]

Originally Posted by return to the red

I have a question to all those fitness types though. I eat healthy and go to the gym (weight training) 3 times a week, usually ride the bike for twenty minutes and jump on the rowing machine for 10 minutes 4 times a week, go wall climbing one a week and play badminton for an hour or 2 once a week plus a do situps every night. why the hell can't I get rid of my spare tire?? or does anybody have any excercises they recommend that really works the stomach

losing stomach fat doesn't have much to do with doing exercises for your abs, you lose fat from burning more calories than you are ingesting. The most likely cause is that you're eating more in calories than you think, keeping a record of your food consumed in an average week should give you an idea if you're eating more than perhaps you think you are.

[OilersBaby]

Keep a food diary! everytime you eat something,write it down and then write down the amt of fat, protein, calories etc.......add all the values and see how much it is. everything has calories....those lil buggers add up fast.

Be like a lot of women and learn to read labels!

[SpecialK12]

Originally Posted by return to the red

I've always been skeptical of any pills that make you lose weight. If they are taking off the lbs then what the hell else are they doing to your body?

Eating right and plenty of excercise is the way to go.

I have a question to all those fitness types though. I eat healthy and go to the gym (weight training) 3 times a week, usually ride the bike for twenty minutes and jump on the rowing machine for 10 minutes 4 times a week, go wall climbing one a week and play badminton for an hour or 2 once a week plus a do situps every night. why the hell can't I get rid of my spare tire?? or does anybody have any excercises they recommend that really works the stomach

in my opinion and experience ( i am sure oilers baby will back this up).. alot of people "think" they eat healthy but are stillable to make a lot of changes to their diet.
For me, I went through a similar period to you. I finally sat down and re-analyzed my diet. While I ate healthy most of the time, the treats i allowed myself, although small - had become frequent. Those add up very quickly. I also re-examined the types of carbs I was putting into my body. I cut out alot of extra breads and cereals. My carb intake consists mainly of oatmeal in the morning, complex carbs like yams, chickpeas, black beans, brown rice (small portion, ie a fist full - not a plate full), etc. The rest of my diet is strictly quality protein and tons of fruits and veggies. That extra I wanted to lose faded fast and has stayed off.