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Old 12-11-2006, 10:09 AM   #1
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to avoid a lawsuit. A rabbi had threatened to sue asking that a Jewish menorah be placed beside the Christmas trees.

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“They’ve darkened the hall instead of turning the lights up,” said Bogomilsky’s lawyer, Harvey Grad. “There is a concern here that the Jewish community will be portrayed as the Grinch.”


What do you guys think? I agree that they are being a tad "Grinchish". My celebration of Christmas has nothing to do with religion. It's a great holiday for the kids and a good excuse to get together with family.
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Old 12-11-2006, 10:13 AM   #2
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ugh, do we really have to go through this every year now? Is it really that hard for people to let others celebrate whatever they want without it being judged?
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A Charlie Brown Christmas (done by the cast of Scrubs)
(I think Linus (played by John C. McGinley(Dr. Cox)) got it right)
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Why are we wasting valuble CP bandwidth on such a useless as-s topic.

Please.

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Why are we wasting valuble CP bandwidth on such a useless as-s topic.

Please.

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thanks for your equally useless reply.
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Old 12-11-2006, 10:34 AM   #6
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Especially strange considering Christmas really has nothing to do with religion.

It was a pagan holiday, taken over by Christianity.

It's not even the day Jesus was born.
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Old 12-11-2006, 10:37 AM   #7
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Here's a funny story. My coworker was at a coffee shop over the weekend wearing a santa hat minding his own business. Some nutjob lady came up to him and ask him to take it off because it might offend people who don't celebrate Christmas. He told the lady "No, I don't think I'll be doing that. Merry f-ing christmas, BITCH!"

I thought that was hilarious.
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Here's a funny story. My coworker was at a coffee shop over the weekend wearing a santa hat minding his own business. Some nutjob lady came up to him and ask him to take it off because it might offend people who don't celebrate Christmas. He told the lady "No, I don't think I'll be doing that. Merry f-ing christmas, BITCH!"

I thought that was hilarious.
nice! It's like asking someone to take of their Flames jersey because they don't follow hockey and might be offended. Unreal.
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Even if you associate Christmas with Christianity, as no doubt many do, how is a Christmas tree a religious symbol?
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Here's a funny story. My coworker was at a coffee shop over the weekend wearing a santa hat minding his own business. Some nutjob lady came up to him and ask him to take it off because it might offend people who don't celebrate Christmas. He told the lady "No, I don't think I'll be doing that. Merry f-ing christmas, BITCH!"

I thought that was hilarious.
Wow, I can't believe she did that! What is wrong with people?...

"um, excuse me sir could you please take your turban off, we don't celebrate your religion" would be equally as rude to say...

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What do you guys think? I agree that they are being a tad "Grinchish". My celebration of Christmas has nothing to do with religion. It's a great holiday for the kids and a good excuse to get together with family.
Which can also be the case for many who celebrate Hanukah (I had 2 parties to attend yesterday and have 5 more next week)

Who is being "Grinchish", the Rabbi or the Airport?

The issue is really on of simple respect - though a 'giant' chanukiah is a bit excessive.

I have this issue every year with both my office building management company and City Hall (in TO).

Each year they put up trees, hollies, and poinsettas in a way that are clear to me that they are 'Christmas decorations', the boxes are even labeled as such (in the office building).

I have written requesting they also include a chanukiah (Jewish candleabra) or another Hanukah symbol be added to the display. The response has been that if I supply it, then maybe ok. My reply has always been "who pays for the items that are already there? A consortium of the employees?"

If a public body is going to decorate a public space they should be cognisant of who will be walking through that space. If they decorate with 'Christmas' symbols at their expense then they should be willing to decorate with other symbols at their expense, within reason.

The airport's argument that they didn't have time to play 'anthropologist' is BS! The money they spent bringing down the decorations could have been spent on one staffer doing a little reasearch. It really is not that hard. The sect that that rabbi belongs to generally does not run to a lawyer but tries to educate the propery managers and help aquire the chanukiah for the display (as happened with Vaughan Mills Mall in Toronto).

Winter ethnic holidays to be aware of:
Christmas
Hannukah
Kwanza
Ukraninan/Lithuanian Christmas
Chinese New Year
Ramadan (once very few years it falls in Dec.)
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I love messing with people's heads when I go shopping in December. Usually people will bag up your purchase and say "Have a Merry Christmas!" My favourite reply is "The dark master forbids it" and then I leave the store without cracking a smile. Fun stuff. Good times.
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I love messing with people's heads when I go shopping in December. Usually people will bag up your purchase and say "Have a Merry Christmas!" My favourite reply is "The dark master forbids it" and then I leave the store without cracking a smile. Fun stuff. Good times.
I think you should add a hiss before or after you say that to add emphasis.
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Here's a funny story. My coworker was at a coffee shop over the weekend wearing a santa hat minding his own business. Some nutjob lady came up to him and ask him to take it off because it might offend people who don't celebrate Christmas. He told the lady "No, I don't think I'll be doing that. Merry f-ing christmas, BITCH!"

I thought that was hilarious.

And that is a case of an overly sensitive person looking for offence in everything.

If the guy was standing in the middle of the shop yelling carols at the top of his lungs, then please make him stop. But wearing unobtrusive seasonal clothing - he wasn't wearing raindeer antlers and poking people - what's the trouble?
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I had a lady freak on me for writing "X-mas"... she said "Don't you ever replace the word Christ with an X, it's so disrespectful"...

Jesus X some people are too sensitive!!!
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Even if you associate Christmas with Christianity, as no doubt many do, how is a Christmas tree a religious symbol?
Guilty by association.

A Christmas tree is a Christmas symbol the same as a chanukiah is a Hanukah symbol. Each is associated with the respective holiday, to the point where it is hard to disassociate a pine tree trimmed with lights (even if they are blue & white) from Christmas. Since it is tied to a Christian holiday it becomes a Christian symbol.
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Especially strange considering Christmas really has nothing to do with religion.
true that it didn't used to be a religious holiday, but now it is. just because Christmas today has no religious meaning for you, doesn't mean that it can't for others.

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are you acknowledging that Jesus was in fact born and that he was a real person? Just wondering because I thought you were in the Jesus isn't real camp with Cheese, Troutman, and others. If not, my mistake.
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I love messing with people's heads when I go shopping in December. Usually people will bag up your purchase and say "Have a Merry Christmas!" My favourite reply is "The dark master forbids it" and then I leave the store without cracking a smile. Fun stuff. Good times.
Briliant!
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Guilty by association.

A Christmas tree is a Christmas symbol the same as a chanukiah is a Hanukah symbol. Each is associated with the respective holiday, to the point where it is hard to disassociate a pine tree trimmed with lights (even if they are blue & white) from Christmas. Since it is tied to a Christian holiday it becomes a Christian symbol.
Ah, so I guess rabbits decorated with pastel colored ribbons and a basket are a Christian symbol as well.

Sorry, not buying it. Too many non-Christians celebrate Christmas in the traditional way without a mention or thought of Christ for that to be valid.

Frankly, I think more people associate Santa Claus with Christmas than Jesus.
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Some people are indeed crazy. A few years ago, my company had a lady that would get offended if we put up a Christmas tree in the company. Since it is by the order of the president of the company, she couldn't do anything, but would take every opportunity to criticize any christmas decorations...including my little tree in MY OWN OFFICE.

I'm glad she quit awhile ago. She would have freaked if she saw our new company tree.
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