11-07-2006, 07:12 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Anyone hear the new Iron Maiden?
Just heard the new tune "Different World".
I thought it was 1982 again.
Great stuff.
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11-07-2006, 07:32 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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They have a video up on their website for "Different World". It's a good song but that video, geez I don't know. I believe the politically correct term for it is "######ed".
I read somewhere else that they have gone back to the 80's. Good move.
If they would go the Kiss route and put the makeup back on (in this case spandex) and re-create an old tour like Powerslave they could really clean up. I know someone that saw them recently and he was rather unhappy with the set list. Much more new stuff than old stuff and a lot of the classics missing. Hallowed be thy name was not part of the deal.
Last edited by RougeUnderoos; 11-07-2006 at 07:41 PM.
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11-07-2006, 07:41 PM
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Retired
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pacific Ocean
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I haven't heard it yet - but Habernac who seems to have a good taste in music liked it alot. Going to see if I can download it tonight!
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11-07-2006, 11:13 PM
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Heard it driving in my buddy's truck from Calgary to Edmonton.
They've definitely gone back to their roots. It you like 80's Maiden you'll like the new stuff.
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11-07-2006, 11:38 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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yeah, I bought it a month or so ago, sounds like classic Maiden, I recommend it. Some 9 or 10 minute marathon songs as well.
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11-08-2006, 01:14 AM
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Has lived the dream!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Where I lay my head is home...
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While 1982 and Iron Maiden were great, both are kind of irrelevant now. And this is coming from a fan.
My complaint that it DID sound old. And even slower than before. Their last new/comeback album was better.
Good bands at least experiment or try to stay relevant. May be a flop, but at least they grow. Iron Maiden will always be a good band, a phenomenal band with all the worship that comes with being one of the creators of a genre. But to me this album helped solidify how the are not artistic or innovative. How they are not relevant or important. Like all the old bands cashing in on baby boomers/new geriatrics (not an insult just disposable income) like Aerosmith (again awesome in their day, not so much now) Stones, Def Leppard... All these ancient bands that want one last kick at the can and fail musically and artistically, just seel out to the new CD/DVD collection culture.
As much as people bitch about Metallica and St. Anger (which I agree, not good) at least it tried something. I would have appreciated something like that from Maiden. I loved their last album because it was comeback/throwback. You can't do that twice in a row. If you are a relevent and inspiring band, then you are a relevent and inspiring band.
They should do this album in Vegas with Celine Dion.
P.S. Please record and produce with The Perfect Machine Ltd.  You can call Tyler at 403-701-9551
Least you know we're serious about new and different music...
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11-08-2006, 07:24 AM
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Best Maiden album since Number of the Beast IMO. A fraction better than Seventh Son of a Sevneth Son.
Different World is the worst but most radio friendly song on the album.
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11-08-2006, 11:16 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daradon
While 1982 and Iron Maiden were great, both are kind of irrelevant now. And this is coming from a fan.
My complaint that it DID sound old. And even slower than before. Their last new/comeback album was better.
Good bands at least experiment or try to stay relevant. May be a flop, but at least they grow. Iron Maiden will always be a good band, a phenomenal band with all the worship that comes with being one of the creators of a genre. But to me this album helped solidify how the are not artistic or innovative. How they are not relevant or important. Like all the old bands cashing in on baby boomers/new geriatrics (not an insult just disposable income) like Aerosmith (again awesome in their day, not so much now) Stones, Def Leppard... All these ancient bands that want one last kick at the can and fail musically and artistically, just seel out to the new CD/DVD collection culture.
As much as people bitch about Metallica and St. Anger (which I agree, not good) at least it tried something. I would have appreciated something like that from Maiden. I loved their last album because it was comeback/throwback. You can't do that twice in a row. If you are a relevent and inspiring band, then you are a relevent and inspiring band.
They should do this album in Vegas with Celine Dion.
P.S. Please record and produce with The Perfect Machine Ltd.  You can call Tyler at 403-701-9551
Least you know we're serious about new and different music...
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If you were actually a fan of metal you would realize that Maiden is more relevant today than 10 years ago. Listen to bands like Dragonforce, Blind Guardian, yeah these bands ain't huge but they are amazing and Maiden will always be relevant because they were one of the most influential bands of all time.
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11-08-2006, 11:28 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg...0:0dq2g4gctv6z
Matter of Life and Death, a more elaborate and meandering experience than Dance of Death, but a rewarding one for fans willing to indulge the group's occasional excess. At over 70 minutes, Matter of Life and Death is closer to 1988's woefully underrated Seventh Son of a Seventh Son than it is to Piece of Mind, but with far less keyboard tickling.
There is a fun Iron Maiden tribute band in Calgary called Edward The Great. Check them out.
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11-08-2006, 11:52 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sowa
If you were actually a fan of metal you would realize that Maiden is more relevant today than 10 years ago. Listen to bands like Dragonforce, Blind Guardian, yeah these bands ain't huge but they are amazing and Maiden will always be relevant because they were one of the most influential bands of all time.
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Well I looked that one up and sure enough a 7 minute song started with all sorts of guitar noodling and caterwauling. Excellent. The artwork, the names of the songs, just the whole theme -- those guys have this thing clocked.
If they weren't so serious about it all I'd think there just might be a touch of irony in there.
I think I'll buy it.
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11-08-2006, 12:48 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: I'm right behind you
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I just watched the video for "Different World."
Errrm... Iron Matrix?
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11-08-2006, 01:05 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Austin, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Well I looked that one up and sure enough a 7 minute song started with all sorts of guitar noodling and caterwauling. Excellent. The artwork, the names of the songs, just the whole theme -- those guys have this thing clocked.
If they weren't so serious about it all I'd think there just might be a touch of irony in there.
I think I'll buy it.
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Blind Guardian is good too a little more operaish most the songs are about Lord of the Rings they've been doing those for like 15 yrs so its not like they jumped on the wagon. One of their new albums has Christopher Lee (sarumon) doing spoken word.
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11-08-2006, 05:40 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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I don't get why music has to be an evolving entity.
Yes, most bands progress...but many, especially the ones you mentioned, fall into a trap of writing for the charts (or what they perceive will be looked upon kindly by the charts) instead of writing for themselves. This is why my once beloved Def Leppard has fallen out of favor with me. They made 3 absolutely fantastic records. Each one was a progression from the last. Then they slowly began to change their music to fit what was popular. Instead of progressing, they evolved. Evolution is not a good quality in music.
Queensryche has done just the opposite. They've progressed every record. Each one, and some of them are not popular among Queensryche fans has been different from the last, but they are all absolutely Queensryche. Their latest, Operation: Mindcrime II is the perfect example of progression IMO.
Metallica almost evolved instead of progressed. I'm not a big fan of the Black album, although I own it and listen to it occasionally. They were close to going the wrong way. Unlike most Metallica fans, I LOVE Load and Reload. Progression. Now, if their next record is Ride The Lightning part II I would love it...but if its something new and different that's great too. As long as it doesn't turn into pop metal..I'm confident it won't.
Pearl Jam, I think, has accomplished something almost unfathomable. They've progressed to be sure and tried new things, but you could reorder their releases and give them to someone who had never heard Pearl Jam and that person could not put them in order of release date. Do you think that could happen with Def Leppard or Aerosmith? I don't.
When I posted this about Maiden, I was just excited to hear some real metal on the radio again. I think its fantastic.
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11-10-2006, 05:24 AM
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Iron Maiden not relevant? Wow. They were highly influential for bands in the late 80's to mid 90's (the kids who grew up listening to Maiden and Priest and then formed bands). And by extention they are atleast indirectly influential to today's hard rock/metal bands. Though i'd think you'd find that many of todays hard rock/metal musicians are still influenced directly by them.
There aren't many bands that can be considered so relevant and influential over 3 decades after forming but Maiden is one of the them I think.
The video for "The Reincarnation of Bejamin Breeg". It was the first single to be released off the album (atleast in Europe).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNttRSMqOe0
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11-10-2006, 08:35 AM
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#15
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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when Iron Maiden puts out an album I want it to sound like......well....Iron Maiden. Why does a band need to reinvent itself every time they put out new material?
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11-10-2006, 08:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
when Iron Maiden puts out an album I want it to sound like......well....Iron Maiden. Why does a band need to reinvent itself every time they put out new material?
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When a band is essentially unique and one of a kind it doesn't have to. Which is why Maiden doesn't have to. Though they have definitely evolved as musicians, songwriters and the latter day three guitar attack is nice they are simply Iron Maiden and will always sound like Iron Maiden because they don't need to sound like anything else....and that's the way it will always be. I hope.
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