11-02-2006, 11:42 AM
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Wucka Wocka Wacka
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: East of the Rockies, West of the Rest
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Hockey Invention Idea
OK now I am all inspired by the Dragons Den and wanted to get some feedback on an idea that I have for the professional sports (Hockey and Football).
The 'invention' is a wireless device attached to player equipment, it would provide a hub for sensors etc. and link to a computer system on the bench.
What I'd to know is which of the following features would be useful for the coaching staff/training in the invention. Tell me what you think..
1-The ability to monitor impact (can track concussions, the impact of Phaneufs hits)
2-The ability to monitor heart rate (is that Tanguey even working up a sweat?)
3-The ability to track a players position on the ice for the whole game (can be used to analyze positioning etc.)
4-The ability to have voice communication from the bench to the ice (Playfair can micromanage even further)
In your opinion would these features be useful to a pro sports team to improve performance and coaching? Any other ideas?
Don't worry about the technical feasibility of the gadget, we have some stellar wireless researchers here in Calgary, I just want to think about whether there would be a market...
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11-02-2006, 11:47 AM
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Franchise Player
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1. That would do nothing to track concussions as the fource needed for a concussion is not static and furthermore concussions are monitored through CAT/MRI scans. Same thing with every injury.
2. Can tracking players not be done with I don't know videotape?
3. Heartrate? Why to determine what? I know that might sound rude but what would looking at a heartrate do in a game situation.
4. Don't cover ears in hockey reduced ambiant sound so one couldn't hear their teammate calling for a puck for instance.
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11-02-2006, 11:56 AM
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Wucka Wocka Wacka
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: East of the Rockies, West of the Rest
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Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
1. That would do nothing to track concussions as the fource needed for a concussion is not static and furthermore concussions are monitored through CAT/MRI scans. Same thing with every injury.
2. Can tracking players not be done with I don't know videotape?
3. Heartrate? Why to determine what? I know that might sound rude but what would looking at a heartrate do in a game situation.
4. Don't cover ears in hockey reduced ambiant sound so one couldn't hear their teammate calling for a puck for instance.
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Good points...and no they don't sound rude...if an idea is an ugly baby it is better to hear it early...but to clarify a few things
1-You can measure impact pretty easily with accelerometers...case in point airbags... and Virginia Tech is already doing this
2-Yep it sure can...the only difference here (and this is kinda egg-head stuff) is that you could track the positions of all players inside a computer system and then mine the data for interesting patterns (hey oil companies/financial companies mine data for interesting patterns all the time)
3-Honestly...I dunno
4-No loss of ambient noise would be tolerated, it would just be the same as a teammate shouting to you.
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Last edited by Fozzie_DeBear; 11-02-2006 at 11:58 AM.
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11-02-2006, 12:05 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear
4-The ability to have voice communication from the bench to the ice (Playfair can micromanage even further)
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Hasn't this already been invented?
It would be useful during a stoppage in play but not during the game.
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11-02-2006, 01:07 PM
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Franchise Player
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1-The ability to monitor impact (can track concussions, the impact of Phaneufs hits)
The companies that develop helmets do this already. There was a big article on ESPN.com the other week about it.
The main problem with any of these is the cost/benifit would be no where near effficient for teams. There are cheaper ways to do each
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11-02-2006, 01:14 PM
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Franchise Player
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Watched the show, Dragons Den, last night....wow what a fantastic show by the CBC! Wont be long before the good ole boys down south pick up on it and do one for themselves.
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11-02-2006, 01:18 PM
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Wucka Wocka Wacka
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: East of the Rockies, West of the Rest
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Hasn't this already been invented?
It would be useful during a stoppage in play but not during the game.
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Why not during a game?
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11-02-2006, 01:23 PM
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Wucka Wocka Wacka
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: East of the Rockies, West of the Rest
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
Watched the show, Dragons Den, last night....wow what a fantastic show by the CBC! Wont be long before the good ole boys down south pick up on it and do one for themselves.
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Yeah, CBC is hemming and hawing about whether to pickup another season of the show...they would be fools not to.
This is the most entertaining 'reality-show' I have seen in a loooong time on any channel
My wife thinks it kicks a** too
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11-02-2006, 05:58 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Edmonton, AB
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Would a communications system like that even be legal?
It's one thing for a player to shout to his teammates on the ice...it's another to have a coach on the bench, in a press box, etc...watching the play from several angles, and instructing players where to position themselves, on-the-fly.
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11-02-2006, 06:05 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Clinching Party
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Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear
Why not during a game?
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In hockey generally they are moving too fast to take instructions I would think. Maybe on the power-play or being able to say "Kovalchuk is cherry-picking" but I think most of the time they are going on instinct.
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11-02-2006, 06:24 PM
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Wucka Wocka Wacka
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: East of the Rockies, West of the Rest
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MattyK
Would a communications system like that even be legal?
It's one thing for a player to shout to his teammates on the ice...it's another to have a coach on the bench, in a press box, etc...watching the play from several angles, and instructing players where to position themselves, on-the-fly.
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I'd like to know this myself...anyone know anyone who might know?
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11-02-2006, 09:27 PM
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Don't QB's in the NFL have radios in there helmets so they can get instruction in between plays?
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