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Old 10-19-2006, 12:45 PM   #1
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Rand performed research on Chiropractic care.

Rand stands for Research and Development. "One of America's most prestigious centers for research in public policy, science and technology."

http://www.rand.org/publications/ran...98.9/back.html

http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/abstract/129/1/9

http://www.vitalityweb.com/chiro/studys1.htm

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Old 10-19-2006, 12:46 PM   #2
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wrong forum.
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Old 10-19-2006, 12:48 PM   #3
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Yes yes... I have two widows open and posted the wrong one. I'm sorry - can it be moved?
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Old 10-19-2006, 12:49 PM   #4
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Omg, for the LAST time, we are not going to be trading for Craig Conroy!!
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Old 10-19-2006, 01:57 PM   #5
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I think it's pretty important to make an important clarification. There are come chiropractors (sometimes who are referred to as reform chiropractors I think) who limit their care to musculoskeletal problems, who believe in science based measures and treatments.

There are others who believe that subluxations (pinched nerves in the spine) are the underlying cause of disease, who believe spinal manipulations on infants and even new borns (!!) is warranted and will treat cholic. These ones will often try to sign you up for lengthy treatment contracts and order unnecessary x-rays. I know one of these personally.

So I think it's important to indicate what's being talked about; which type of chiropractor is being discussed.

More Info: http://www.chirobase.org/13RD/chiroguidelines.html

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A 1996 RAND report on The Appropriateness of Manipulation and Mobilization of the Cervical Spine estimated that stroke and other injuries resulting from cervical spine manipulation occurred about 1.46 times per 1,000,000 manipulations [12]. It also concluded that only 11.1% of reported indications for cervical manipulation could be labeled appropriate. A patient who receives regular, frequent, and totally unnecessary neck manipulation is subjected to greater risk. Since many cases of stroke caused by cervical manipulation have not been recognized as such, studies are being done to determine how many stroke victims had neck manipulation prior to their stroke. The incidence of stroke from cervical manipulation might be much higher than indicated in past studies. A study by the Canadian Stroke Consortium, published in the July 18, 2000, Canadian Medical Association Journal, for example, reported that stroke resulting from neck manipulation occurred in 28% of 74 cases studied [13]. Other causes were sudden neck movement of various types. The most common finding was vertebral artery dissection (splitting or tearing of arterial walls with clot formation and embolism) caused by sudden movement or rotation of the top two cervical vertebrae.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...chiroeval.html

Just like anything else, there is good and bad and there are risks involved. Chiropractors as a whole though seem to be bad at real science based critical thought and process. In 1997 600 Chiropractors were questioned and 68% believed that "most diseases are caused by spinal malalignment". That's stunning. It has been improving over recent years though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiropractic
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^^^^

Thanks, photon. That is my take exactly.
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Old 10-19-2006, 02:09 PM   #7
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I'll take that as a high compliment coming from you!
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Old 10-19-2006, 02:35 PM   #8
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www.quackwatch.org should be essential reading for everyone ....

I actually have a couple of the eye-related reports (iridology and eye exercises) printed off and sititng in office so that i can give them to anyone that wants to know about them.... they are BS, but a lot of people tell them that they work.....

This site helps people make an informed choice about what is best for them personally.....

As for Chiropractors..... there is no such thing as prophylactic back care.... either you have a back problems, or you dont..
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I'll take that as a high compliment coming from you!
Critical thinking seems to be a rare commodity.
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My mom was a fruit loop when I was growing up and met a chiropractor. She took me and my brother in as kids for no reason whatsoever and I now have back pain as an adult.

I've got no problems with going to the chiropractor as treatment to an injury but to prevent?? Absolutely not.
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Old 10-19-2006, 03:33 PM   #11
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When i worked on the rigs I often had back pain from strenuous work. One day it was so bad I couldn't bend over to tie my shoes. I went to the doctor....he took x-rays and did an exam. He told me....there is nothing wrong with you. Bullsh*t. Went to the chiropractor....he did some cracks. Of course the pain wasn't gone instantly but I could feel a difference in a matter of hours. The next day the pain was more than half gone.

I think if you can find a really good chiropractor they are very good for your health. I looking into back pain once and I found that if you only have the weight of 1 quarter pressure on your nerve in your spine.....it effectiveness is reduced by 60%.

Like I said....find a good one that knows what they are doing. It can be dangerous especially when neck manipulation is involved. I don't agree with the idea that subloxation (or what ever it is called) is the cause for diseases....maybe things like numbness or carple tunnel disorder.
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:15 AM   #12
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Well thought out and written Photon.

Sorry for my delay - I don't have the net right now. Using Mount Royals Computers.
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