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Robbob · 10-05-2006, 04:55 PM

Wisconsin lawmaker wants teachers to have guns.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15142930/?GT1=8618

I don't understand why guns are the solve all.

habernac · 10-05-2006, 04:58 PM

my favourite argument is "well, it says we have the right to bear arms....."

Looger · 10-05-2006, 05:00 PM

what aboot snakes?

EDIT: <sorry>

RougeUnderoos · 10-05-2006, 05:04 PM

I don't know about the teachers, but if say the principal is properly trained to be carrying a gun, I wouldn't complain.

Sure it doesn't solve all the problems and you don't want a damn firefight going on in the hallways of an elementary school, but if an adult knows how to use a gun and isn't a wingnut, why not?

I do think though that a lot of people visualize some sort or scene out of a movie where the bad guy walks in and Joe Englishteacher pulls a pistol out of his holster and blows him away.

It would probably take a guy from the Delta Force to be able to use a gun properly in a room full of frantic (or dead) kids. Hmm. Maybe I talked myself out of it.

habernac · 10-05-2006, 05:30 PM

White Doors · 10-05-2006, 07:08 PM

I'm as unsure about the principle of the school in which my kid is enrolled being allowed to bring a gun to his workplace - as I am with the mentality of, otherwise law abiding people, being restricted from having the right to buy the firearms that they wish.

The biggest danger is the belief that we can 'legislate' these dangers out of society, no matter how 'well intentioned' these laws may be.

Iowa_Flames_Fan · 10-05-2006, 11:20 PM

Surely the answer to school violence is always going to involve fewer guns in schools. That seems self-evident to me. I'd rather have metal detectors than Principal Rambo.

photon · 10-06-2006, 12:23 AM

Burninator · 10-06-2006, 07:49 AM

mykalberta · 10-06-2006, 08:49 AM

He is right that every option should be on the table, I think that is a little excessive though, perhaps a police officer in every school or the novel idea...

HOW ABOUT PARENTS ACTUALLY START PARENTING

MYK

Log · 10-06-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by habernac

my favourite argument is "well, it says we have the right to bear arms....."

Frick, most people already have 2 of them!!!

Seriously, that's one of the dummest things I've ever heard of.

Mr.Coffee · 10-06-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mykalberta

He is right that every option should be on the table, I think that is a little excessive though, perhaps a police officer in every school or the novel idea...

HOW ABOUT PARENTS ACTUALLY START PARENTING

MYK

WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAAAAh. Let's not get out of control and say things we can't take back here. I have worked very hard to be able to eventually one day have kids and be a lazy slackass and an irresponsible parent.

I have two solutions that don't involve MORE GUNS IN THE DAMN SCHOOL. Here they are:

1) Parents: If your kid is awkward, dresses in all black, listens to heavy metal music about death and destruction, is building grenades in his/her bedroom, seems distant and has a history of violence............ maybe that's about the point in time you should try and oh i dunno.. make a move I guess.

2) If the media didn't portray every school shooting on CNN, FOX, NBC, CBC, GLOBAL, EVERY NEWSPAPER... perhaps this activity wouldn't be such a glorious event to these attention deprived trigger happy maniacs. Like seriously... the police should prevent all media outlets from coming anywhere NEAR the school when an event like this occurs. It only feeds the fire.

Flashpoint · 10-06-2006, 09:51 AM

I like what Scotland did.

Outlawed guns. Solved the problem.

Worried about security? Buy a dog. When your kid plays with it, they won't wind up dead.

I read a Time magazine article a few years back. They had a big article on gun deaths in the US. The provided a picture of everyone who was killed by a gun over the course of a week. When you look at the data, for every time a gun is used for self defence there are 54 accidental fatalites.

I wouldn't allow my child to attend a school where the principal carried a firearm - even if he was perfectly sane, and well trained. It is the unforseen circumstances I would be worried about.

JohnnyFlame · 10-06-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Flashpoint

I like what Scotland did.

Outlawed guns. Solved the problem.

Worried about security? Buy a dog. When your kid plays with it, they won't wind up dead.

I read a Time magazine article a few years back. They had a big article on gun deaths in the US. The provided a picture of everyone who was killed by a gun over the course of a week. When you look at the data, for every time a gun is used for self defence there are 54 accidental fatalites.

I wouldn't allow my child to attend a school where the principal carried a firearm - even if he was perfectly sane, and well trained. It is the unforseen circumstances I would be worried about.

Yep I like the idea of outlawing things as well. I would ban the having or making of guns in Canada. Cigarettes as well. Ban them totally. LOts of things that are just health hazards. Hunters can sign up to go to Baffin Island and hunt or go Stateside. Same with those who want to target shoot.

Penalty for having a gun -- DEATH. A quick trial and death by lethal injection. Another problem solvable if only we had politicians who would act in the interest of common sense and not in the interest of obtaining or keeping power.

Reaper · 10-06-2006, 10:38 AM

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I would ban the having or making of guns in Canada.

So much for species management and population control of ducks, geese, etc...

Mr.Coffee · 10-06-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper

So much for species management and population control of ducks, geese, etc...

I'm pretty sure there are other ways to kill ducks and geese and control their population, even if it is a big problem- which I'm not sure it is.

Bobblehead · 10-06-2006, 10:45 AM

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So much for species management and population control of ducks, geese, etc...

Calvin & Hobbes Classic

Mr.Coffee · 10-06-2006, 10:49 AM

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Calvin & Hobbes Classic

HAHHAHA That is an awesome comic. So is the new pbf with the whales.

jolinar of malkshor · 10-06-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Flashpoint

I like what Scotland did.

Outlawed guns. Solved the problem.

Worried about security? Buy a dog. When your kid plays with it, they won't wind up dead.

I read a Time magazine article a few years back. They had a big article on gun deaths in the US. The provided a picture of everyone who was killed by a gun over the course of a week. When you look at the data, for every time a gun is used for self defence there are 54 accidental fatalites.

I wouldn't allow my child to attend a school where the principal carried a firearm - even if he was perfectly sane, and well trained. It is the unforseen circumstances I would be worried about.

Because guns are the only thing that kill people eh. Might aswell ban everything. Knives, bats, cars, gasoline...anything that can kill a person.

You gun control people are the most short sighted people in the world.

Mr.Coffee · 10-06-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Because guns are the only thing that kill people eh. Might aswell ban everything. Knives, bats, cars, gasoline...anything that can kill a person.

You gun control people are the most short sighted people in the world.

Knives = used for cutting objects, like your dinner.

Bats = used for the game of baseball.

Cars = used for quicker transportation.

Gasoline = used in cars for quicker transportation.

Guns = used for...........

Get real. People don't need guns. What on earth do you need a gun for? Self defense? Mmhmm...