Fox News apologizes

[Fuzzy McGillicuddy]

Fox News reporter Carl Cameron wrote a story that contained bogus Kerry quotes following this week's debate.


Link: Fox News - Oops, sorry

"Didn't my nails and cuticles look great? What a good debate!?'' Kerry said Friday.

"It's about the Supreme Court. Women should like me! I do manicures''


Sadly, many Americans may have seen this and the damage is done.

And this is the news network that Canadians are craving. It's all flash over substance. Somewhere, Edward R. Murrow is spinning in his grave.

[transplant99]

Ridiculous. Just a stupid thing to say about anyone, never mind a Presidential candidate.

The depth some of these "journalists" go to in an effort to make a name for themselves is frightening....not to mention idiotic. The guy will never be taken seriously again...career suicide.

[Cowperson]

Originally posted by Fuzzy McGillicuddy@Oct 2 2004, 02:27 PM
Fox News reporter Carl Cameron wrote a story that contained bogus Kerry quotes following this week's debate.


Link: Fox News - Oops, sorry

"Didn't my nails and cuticles look great? What a good debate!?'' Kerry said Friday.

"It's about the Supreme Court. Women should like me! I do manicures''


Sadly, many Americans may have seen this and the damage is done.

And this is the news network that Canadians are craving. It's all flash over substance. Somewhere, Edward R. Murrow is spinning in his grave.

"the item was based on a reporter's partial script that had been written in jest"

That's obviously the only truthful thing in the story.

If you quizzed most reporters you would probably find they've done something similar to amuse themselves at one time or another . . . . most wouldn't have had it grabbed out of their file by an editor, taken seriously and posted on a website.

The fault lies with the editor in this case if you ask me. That in turn goes to the issue of whether or not FOX is biased and the fact an editor would believe John Kerry would say such obviously phoney baloney quotes might give critics of the network some evidence.

In this case though, I wouldn't blame the reporter unless he had inserted those in a legitimate story he knew was going to print at some point. It didn't look like it.

Cowperson

[FlamesAddiction]

If the average FOX viewer/reader read those quotes and thought they were real, I give them even less credit now.

I didn't read the original story, but it seems obvious that the author was just making fun of Kerry. Not really a new thing considering other strories that have been printed on their website.

[Flame On]

Originally posted by Fuzzy McGillicuddy@Oct 2 2004, 02:27 PM
And this is the news network that Canadians are craving. It's all flash over substance. Somewhere, Edward R. Murrow is spinning in his grave.

Do you have any reason to support this belief? Who's clamoring to watch Fox? If we want dodgy reporting, sensationalist coverage, no in depth....ness or a strictly American view point why can't they just watch CNN? Chir** Fox!? Why would a Canadian want that drivel?

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by Flame On+Oct 2 2004, 06:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flame On @ Oct 2 2004, 06:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Fuzzy McGillicuddy@Oct 2 2004, 02:27 PM
And this is the news network that Canadians are craving. It's all flash over substance. Somewhere, Edward R. Murrow is spinning in his grave.

Do you have any reason to support this belief? Who's clamoring to watch Fox? If we want dodgy reporting, sensationalist coverage, no in depth....ness or a strictly American view point why can't they just watch CNN? Chir** Fox!? Why would a Canadian want that drivel?[/b][/quote]
Well, one might point out the fact that Fox's television programs do exceptionally well in Canada, led by Family Guy and the Simpson's (for our demograph at least). Also, I think he's specifically referring to the Fox news channel that is slated for Canada at some point in the future.

[CaramonLS]

I'm shocked one of the writers didn't write fake quotes for Bush... oh wait no I'm not.

Lanny is gonna be all over this one.

[transplant99]

Originally posted by Flame On+Oct 2 2004, 02:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flame On @ Oct 2 2004, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Fuzzy McGillicuddy@Oct 2 2004, 02:27 PM
And this is the news network that Canadians are craving. It's all flash over substance. Somewhere, Edward R. Murrow is spinning in his grave.

Do you have any reason to support this belief? Who's clamoring to watch Fox? If we want dodgy reporting, sensationalist coverage, no in depth....ness or a strictly American view point why can't they just watch CNN? Chir** Fox!? Why would a Canadian want that drivel? [/b][/quote]
Are you suggesting that CNN and Fox news are somewhat equivalent?

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by transplant99+Oct 2 2004, 06:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (transplant99 @ Oct 2 2004, 06:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Do you have any reason to support this belief? Who's clamoring to watch Fox? If we want dodgy reporting, sensationalist coverage, no in depth....ness or a strictly American view point why can't they just watch CNN? Chir** Fox!? Why would a Canadian want that drivel?

Are you suggesting that CNN and Fox news are somewhat equivalent?[/b][/quote]
Probably more likely that he's suggesting that from a Canadian's point of view, CNN gives a more 'mainstream' type of coverage to American politics, rather than FOX or (the best channel on television) PBS. CNN (attempts to) brings fairly 'average' reporting to the table.

However, I'd almost suggest that recently CNN appears to be leaning towards the Democrats. I recall the Democratic convention had CNN featuring Democratic guests. At the Republican convention, weirdly enough, Democratic guests. Methinks Ted Turner is (and always has been) skewed a little to the left.

Of course, it should probably be noted that Democrats and Republicans are both more conservative than traditional Canadian ideas of 'Left' and 'Right'.

[Flame On]

Originally posted by Agamemnon+Oct 2 2004, 06:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Oct 2 2004, 06:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Do you have any reason to support this belief? Who's clamoring to watch Fox? If we want dodgy reporting, sensationalist coverage, no in depth....ness or a strictly American view point why can't they just watch CNN? Chir** Fox!? Why would a Canadian want that drivel?

Well, one might point out the fact that Fox's television programs do exceptionally well in Canada, led by Family Guy and the Simpson's (for our demograph at least). Also, I think he's specifically referring to the Fox news channel that is slated for Canada at some point in the future. [/b][/quote]
Yeah I'm exclusively talking about the news station, which is what I thought was being talked about. Is it not? I too like a lot of Fox shows, I'm all for reality tv drivel, just not the news kind.

I'm not really saying Fox and CNN are equivalent. Just that we can do better. I don't mind CNN at times though.

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by Flame On+Oct 2 2004, 07:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flame On @ Oct 2 2004, 07:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Well, one might point out the fact that Fox's television programs do exceptionally well in Canada, led by Family Guy and the Simpson's (for our demograph at least). Also, I think he's specifically referring to the Fox news channel that is slated for Canada at some point in the future.

Yeah I'm exclusively talking about the news station, which is what I thought was being talked about. Is it not? I too like a lot of Fox shows, I'm all for reality tv drivel, just not the news kind.

I'm not really saying Fox and CNN are equivalent. Just that we can do better. I don't mind CNN at times though.[/b][/quote]
Well, if you replied to Fuzzy's comment about how Canadian's are craving Fox News, I'd suggest that he was talking about how Fox is opening a news channel here, and that that might be what he was referring to, as has already been discussed on the board.

If you weren't commenting on his post, then I guess I missed something.

[Fuzzy McGillicuddy]

For those who haven't seen FOXNews (most Canadians haven't), don't confuse it with the regular FOX network. While the two obviously have the same parent, FOXNews is a cable-news channel, just like CNN. In fact, it's the top-rated news channel in the United States. And it's coming to Canada at some point.

I think many Canadians will be surprised, shocked and even appalled at the approach of this network. Others will accept the information they are fed as gospel. It's sensationalistic approach often skirts the boundaries of accuracy and fairness. But the Current Affair approach seems to be what most viewers want to watch (according to the ratings). You just know the guy they're reporting about is evil because of the music playing in the background.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

It's FoxNews. What more do you need to know?

[Flame On]

Originally posted by Agamemnon+Oct 2 2004, 07:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Oct 2 2004, 07:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Yeah I'm exclusively talking about the news station, which is what I thought was being talked about. Is it not? I too like a lot of Fox shows, I'm all for reality tv drivel, just not the news kind.

I'm not really saying Fox and CNN are equivalent. Just that we can do better. I don't mind CNN at times though.

Well, if you replied to Fuzzy's comment about how Canadian's are craving Fox News, I'd suggest that he was talking about how Fox is opening a news channel here, and that that might be what he was referring to, as has already been discussed on the board.

If you weren't commenting on his post, then I guess I missed something. [/b][/quote]
I don't see how you got confused Aggy. I was talking about the news channel and if you look at my quote I talk about things like reporting and such, not The Family Guy etc. I don't know why you brought that up. So yes I think you did miss something.