08-13-2006, 07:41 PM
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It's amazing what people will do when they get conned into believing that an idea is more important than life.
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08-13-2006, 08:14 PM
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#3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
It's amazing what people will do when they get conned into believing that an idea is more important than life.
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Or when they feel their position in life is so terrible that they would gladly give their life so that those around them might enjoy a better future down the line.
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08-13-2006, 09:20 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Or when they feel their position in life is so terrible that they would gladly give their life so that those around them might enjoy a better future down the line.
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Yeah, that too, but their belief is what makes them glad, someone else would find a better alternative.
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08-14-2006, 12:11 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Or when they feel their position in life is so terrible that they would gladly give their life so that those around them might enjoy a better future down the line.
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translation: when they've been brainwashed into believing that 'martyrdom' is the only way they can contribute to that better future.
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08-14-2006, 12:58 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Or when they feel their position in life is so terrible that they would gladly give their life so that those around them might enjoy a better future down the line.
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If "they" do believe that "they" are either very easily brainwashed as Dis said, or "they" are just extremely stupid.
Killing a few innocent people is not going to make anyones life better. It is a coward thing to do and only makes the situation "they" want to escape from even worse and their "enemies" more intrenched in their postions.
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08-14-2006, 01:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kipperfan
If "they" do believe that "they" are either very easily brainwashed as Dis said, or "they" are just extremely stupid.
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Or they live in Jenin, a palestinian refugee camp, and are witness to attrocities most of us can't even fathom. Link Not Safe For Work, graphic content.
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Killing a few innocent people is not going to make anyones life better. It is a coward thing to do and only makes the situation "they" want to escape from even worse and their "enemies" more intrenched in their postions.
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Giving your life for the betterment of your immediate family and your nation as a whole is the furthest thing from cowardly that I can imagine.
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08-14-2006, 01:21 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Or they live in Jenin, a palestinian refugee camp, and are witness to attrocities most of us can't even fathom. Link Not Safe For Work, graphic content.
Giving your life for the betterment of your immediate family and your nation as a whole is the furthest thing from cowardly that I can imagine.
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If they acctually believe they are doing as such maybe not, but the fact remains that the bomber will be dead, not having to face the consequences of his/her actions and his/her family will still be living in whatever hell they were prevoiusly. And if the perveyors of this hell find out that said bomber killed a few of their buddies would they not seek retribution? If they did they couldnt do as such on the bomber as he/she is dead, they may look for the easiest and most logical link to he/she, perhaps family or friends?
It's all heresay but leaving your family to suffer alone just to kill a few people who you believe have wronged you is cowardly in my books.
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08-14-2006, 07:47 AM
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Do Muslims have a corner on poverty in the world all of a sudden?
I'm poor, I'm going to blow innocent people up to make a point and there are idiots in N.A. saying " It's because they are poor... I can see that..."
Unbelieveable.
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