05-14-2006, 06:48 AM
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Cindy Sheehan on Canada....
Nice of her to think of us as gracious and polite. But I guess you would get this outlook if the only Canucks you meet are living in downtown Toronto
http://www.indybay.org/news/2006/05/1822652.php
By many accounts, Stephen Harper was put in place as leader of Canada by the collapse of weak coalitions and scandals that led to this man now leading a minority government there. He is wildly unpopular from coast to coast up north and there is a growing sense of unease about his emulation of a very unpopular person in the USA but even more in Canada: George Bush.
Angus Reid Poll: Majority of Canadians are satisefied with Harper's Baby Eating Methods!
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/inde...m/itemID/11861
Last edited by HOZ; 05-15-2006 at 07:51 AM.
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05-14-2006, 08:08 AM
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I can't stand Cindy Sheehan. She is a blabbering fool. Initially I felt sorry for her because she is a mother in grief, now she just needs to go away. Her son made a choice to go to war with the chance that he might die for his country. It is wrong for her to soil his memory with her embarrassing public grieving. What's even worse is the way all these political vultures have snatched up this simple-minded grieving mother and used her as a political pawn.
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05-14-2006, 09:22 AM
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That is an article rife with errors, most of which I would expect from an American when they are speaking about Canada. The theme of the writing is right on the money though. Canadians should be warry of any government that wishes to emulate the Bush administration or follow in their footsteps.
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05-14-2006, 09:30 AM
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Wow what a load of junk, I'm sorry that she lost her son, but somewhere along the line she first lost her mind. Then she allowed herself to become manipulated and used.
She's nothing more then an empty mouthpiece with no thoughts of her own.
Her son is probably rolling in his grave.
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05-14-2006, 09:37 AM
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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I'm no Harper supporter (and I don't take much stock in a single poll taken with no election in sight, which asks for "approval" rather than about "intention to re-elect).
But to say, as Sheehan does, that
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Now Canadians need to wake up to the fact that their new minority, disliked government is leading them down this same slippery slope to the fascistic militarism of their immediate neighbors to the south.
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is a pretty big overstatement, to me. Harper is nowhere near as bad as Bush yet--and Canadian politics is usually characterized by a somewhat less ideological approach to these kinds of issues anyway. Harper is pretty far from a "fascist militarist" right now. Which is a way of saying--following HOZ's favourite joke--that Harper doesn't eat babies. (he just drowns puppies  )
But I don't think Sheehan quite grasps the different situations here. Canadians shouldn't be alarmed by increases in military spending because our military is already underfunded and committed to peacekeeping and humanitarian aid missions abroad. Simply put--they need the money, and it's not to bring about a fascist state--it's to give Canada more options i dealing with global crises. I would suspect that most Canadians support slightly increased military spending.
If we already spent more than the rest of the world combined, that would obviously be different.
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05-14-2006, 12:43 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarkey
What's even worse is the way all these political vultures have snatched up this simple-minded grieving mother and used her as a political pawn.
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Unfortunately that's what politicians do in the States. You just have to look at what the right wing did with that woman who was in a vegetative state (Schiavo?) to know both sides down there are chin deep into it.
It's a sad commentary on how divisive and extreme politics has become down there.
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05-14-2006, 12:47 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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She's a few fries short of a happy meal.
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05-14-2006, 04:27 PM
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a few sandwhiches short of a picnic
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05-14-2006, 04:31 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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She's not playing with a full deck of cards.
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05-14-2006, 05:22 PM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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"Canada needs a Cindy Sheehan to go to the PM's residence and demand to know what noble cause her child died for, or is still fighting for."
-Cindy Sheehan
drunk on yourself much? Sorry Cindy, you lost all credibility and claims to intelligence once you started cavorting with and attending speeches with mass murdering Central and South American military dictators just because they oppose Bush.
Last edited by Hack&Lube; 05-14-2006 at 05:26 PM.
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05-15-2006, 07:31 AM
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The door is open, the lights are on, but nobody is home.
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05-15-2006, 07:57 AM
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She has YET to get a Head stone for her son's grave site to honour her son. All she has to do is to take one day ....yes ONE day and sign some papers to allow her son's other relatives to erect a tomb stome inhis honour.
Yet she has set up 3 outside of Bushes Ranch to HONOUR him.
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05-15-2006, 11:03 AM
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Its hard to believe this wasnt printed on the front page as fact in either the Star or the Globe.
I feel sorry that her son died, I dont feel sorry for some fat cow who tries to become a profeteer from it.
MYK
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05-15-2006, 11:18 AM
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She has her single issue. She is in no position to be makng statements like that.
What next, Paul McCartney talking about the seal hunt?
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05-15-2006, 12:00 PM
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Had an idea!
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She had her time, we all felt pity because she lost her son.
But this is a bit ridiculous.
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05-15-2006, 01:08 PM
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The day that the apparently reformed war-monger, President Dwight D. Eisenhower,
She starts off with an Eisenhower quote and its interesting that she thinks Eisenhower was a war monger and, more particularly, that he changed.
First of all, Eisenhower was a professional soldier in the last "total war" conflict that circled the globe, total war being defined as whole economies and populations on both sides dedicated to the fight in one way or the other.
Did that make him a war monger?
Secondly, did he "reform?"
In the waning days of WWII, in 1945, Eisenhower was opposed to dropping the atomic bomb on Japan.
Yet he also said, in the early 1950's while in office, that America reserved the right to a first strike nuclear policy:
"Ultimately some President might have to decide that it was his duty to strike the first blow against the USSR. You try to shoot your enemy before he shoots you."
He publicly threatened China with nuclear weapons "as you would use a bullet" in 1955 when that country shelled Quemo and Matsu in Taiwan.
He told the British Ambassador once that he "would rather be atomized than communized."
So . . . . he didn't want to nuke Japan but would later threaten China and Russia with first strikes.
I don't think Cindy Sheehan really understands Eisenhower.
Cowperson
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05-15-2006, 01:14 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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some blogger:
http://www.counterbias.com/525.html
Canada's new Prime Minister, was using "God Bless Canada!" as a tagline for his speeches. Some may think this a harmless, or even beneficent, expression for a politician to use, but for those with knowledge of history, nothing could be a more frightening.
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05-15-2006, 03:16 PM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
some blogger:
http://www.counterbias.com/525.html
Canada's new Prime Minister, was using "God Bless Canada!" as a tagline for his speeches. Some may think this a harmless, or even beneficent, expression for a politician to use, but for those with knowledge of history, nothing could be a more frightening.
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God keep our land, glorious and free?
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05-15-2006, 03:45 PM
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Sheehan may have lost the plot, but still, I'm gonna be watching Harper like a hawk (as I hope most of us do)..the last thing I want to see are Bush regime - like tendencies in our government. And there has been at least some suspicion of that from the outset in regards to a Harper government, even though Sheehan is exaggerating it.
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05-15-2006, 04:24 PM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Igottago
Sheehan may have lost the plot, but still, I'm gonna be watching Harper like a hawk (as I hope most of us do)..the last thing I want to see are Bush regime - like tendencies in our government. And there has been at least some suspicion of that from the outset in regards to a Harper government, even though Sheehan is exaggerating it.
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I have no bloody clue where all this Harper = Bush belief is coming from. This is ridiculous. Harper is a Canadian conservative, born in Ontario, schooled in Alberta, he's a economics major, he's smart guy and well spoken. He also knows his place exactly.
This is the guy that goes out of his way to make sure he starts off every press conference in French when Bush laughs at people singing the Star Spangled Banner in Spanish. Improving our military and restoring faded Canadian institutions is not being "Americanized".
I think all these people who believe Harper is steering our country into Bush country had too much liberal brain washing. Conservatism isn't a bad thing, even American conservatism. It's Bush's arrogance and stupid leadership that makes his Presidency a bad one.
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