Advice: Fuming at work

[transplant99]

What the hell do I do? I am scared to make the jump to work elsewhere although I have had the offers.

Send an anonymous letter detailing each and every indiscretion to his immediate superior. Put a time on it that it be addressed and tell them how many are looking to bolt. If nothing happens...then move on, but make sure its apparent others will follow.

If the big boss doesnt do anything, its best to get out sooner rather than later anyhow.

[Cheese]

Jump fotze jump!
If this jerks senior advisors wont act then you need to take care of yourself! NO job no matter what it is is worth hanging onto only to have blame placed where it doesnt lay.

I do suggest that if you have proof of whatever the scenario is to put it into letter format in a point by point form outlining the entire scenario. Give this supervisor a copy and let him know you will send it to the highest point in the food chain unless he takes the blame off your shoulders. IF he doesnt have the balls to do so then you shouldnt work for him.

Then punch him....and RUN!

[transplant99]

Share me your horror stories of grossly incompetent supervisors so I don't feel so bad

Hmmm..well I had to trade a leagues leading scorer for what turned out to be a guy that lasted 3 games, because he didnt like the guy personally.

In fact i had to do things like that for 2 months....and finally i snapped and quit.

[V]

Originally Posted by fotze

The problem is I have job security here and my dad got layed off in the late 80's and he has been 'weird' ever since. So I have a unreasonable fear of getting layed off if I go to a different place.

We aren't in the 80s right now. By the time we actually do get there you'll have moved on and almost forgotten about this job.

I don't know what field you're in, but there seems to be work available everywhere right now. Obviously I can't guarantee anything, but I find it damn hard to believe that anyone worth anything right now is getting laid off. If you're just a slacker that takes it easy at work and doesn't contribute to the greater good of the company than I'd be worried and stay where you are, but if not? Move on. These days companies need you a heluva lot more than you need them.

I've had some terrible bosses in the past, and I've moved because of it. It's not worth the trouble. I've got an amazing boss now, and he's the biggest reason why I'm still here. You can get the money and experience anywhere, but a good boss will make your stay with the company soooo much better.

[habernac]

there's a disgusting amount of work out there, Fotze. Start looking and do it pronto. Oil companies are tossing around $$$$ like it's confetti. My job isn't the greatest, but my boss makes it worth coming in everyday. It makes a huge difference if you have someone you actually enjoy working for.

[LeftWing]

I can understand the fear associated with leaving a secure position, so there's really only one option.

Claim sexual harrassement.

[ricosuave]

give notice, and get out as quietly and gracefully as you can.

a negative working environment is the last thing anyone needs.

i left a job 5 years ago and it is only now that i am able to get over the mental mind****, negativity and self doubt that they put me through.

no joke - its just not worth it to go through what i did, believe me.

rico

[Cowperson]

Will you depend upon him for a recommendation?

Your health is the most important thing . . . . but I think you've indicated you really haven't tried looking for other work to this point. It sounds like its time to get after it.

If it were me though, I wouldn't leave a job in a fit of pique. I'd do some plotting and make it a smooth transition . . . . and you'll have a great opportunity to burn your bridges at that moment, something to look forward to!!

If you tell him off and quit . . . . your next interviewer is going to ask why you left and might want to phone the guy.

But, we're all different in how we'd handle it. But I'd get after looking for a new place to work.

Cowperson

[Rhettzky]

Originally Posted by fotze

No I don't need his recommendation, I wouldn't want it anyway.

I talked to his supervisor about the whole thing and he was great, simmered me down fine and told me I had a legit beef and to discuss with my direct supervisor. If he doesn't take it well then he will step in for me. Blah Blah I am still going to start the exit plan. FAH KIT!

On another note if a headhunter phones asking if you know anyone who might fit a position and you fit the qualifications, are they actually asking about yourself, in a roundabout way?

That is exactly what they are asking. I got a call yesturday from one and the reason they beat around the bush so much is because they do not know if you are a supervisor or something along those lines. They basically don't want to be ****ing off entire companies so they keep it on the low.

[Suave]

I think I found a job for you fotze, it seems like your kind of thing .

http://jobs.workopolis.com/jobshome/...job_id=6852205

[flames_fan13]

Originally Posted by fotze

I talked to his supervisor about the whole thing and he was great, simmered me down fine and told me I had a legit beef and to discuss with my direct supervisor. If he doesn't take it well then he will step in for me.

Did you just talk to his superivsor yesterday? If so i'd wait about a week or two to see if things change, I think a week is more than enough time for his supervisor to fix the problem. However still look for another job just in case the supervisor does nothing.. If the guy has made many good people quit and his supervisor has still kept him on the company won't be in good shape for long. They can't run a successful company by having to replace employees constantly it's a waste of thier resources.

[V]

They can't run a successful company by having to replace employees constantly it's a waste of thier resources.

wanna bet?

[V]

After 2 1/2 years I just couldn't handle it there anymore. The first year and a bit I was pretty sheltered from the corporate bull****, but the next year and a half was a nightmare. I'm surprised I lasted there that long. I was pretty scared of change, though, back then. It is true, though, they do get a lot of high profile jobs, and I maintain that Stantec is a great place to start. And from what I've heard from friends that have moved on, things aren't exactly rosy at Cohos or Stebrob or any of the other similar places either.

Of course, I sold my Stantec shares for 23 bucks when I left. Doh!!

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Suave

I think I found a job for you fotze, it seems like your kind of thing .

http://jobs.workopolis.com/jobshome/...job_id=6852205

[TheCommodoreAfro]

Originally Posted by fotze

I have a very brutal boss that has caused 4 very good people to leave in the past 6 months. I have been left unscathed by him until recently and I have a insanely brutal temper. I am shaking right now cause he is now blaming me for something that is 1500000% his own fault. He knows it too.

This has caused me to lose face in a committee I am currently on.

I almost walked into his office and started swinging but that would be stupid obviously for career reasons and he probably outweighs me by 120 pounds.

He is the worst supervisor I have ever had and I have had some doozies. 3/4's of the current staff are looking for employement elsewhere and his supervisor is aware of the problems yet does nothing.

I actually believe working here is affecting my physical health .

What the hell do I do? I am scared to make the jump to work elsewhere although I have had the offers.

I guess I know what to do. Share me your horror stories of grossly incompetent supervisors so I don't feel so bad.

I had a boss so bad I moved to Japan. I work at an interactive agency, and used to work in a similar industry in Canada. The boss' friends 24 year old son was put in place to run the group without any experience in how things work. And because he had privledge, he was a complete ******* to boot. He would assign us to small, unimportant tasks as he couldn't understand the big picture. So all of us went to lengths to do the jobs he set out, which caused our division to start to lose money. When we were asked why, we explained. He took a real hatred to me, made me fill out a daily journal. My wife had our first baby and I took mat leave instead. At the end of the leave I opted to find work and continue my career in Japan.

Two years later he was sacked in a sexual harrasment case. After three of my coworkers had left.

[Rhettzky]

Hey Fotze, what kind of field are you in?

[hah]

Maybe your boss is an Oilers fan and knows how much time you spend dog ****ing on CP.com.

Go get yourself a better job.

[Clarkey]

Job security? Aren't you a mechanical engineer. You'll be able to find a job in a couple hours.

Careful with the burning bridges, it's a small industry in some ways.

[Eddie Bronze]

Originally Posted by fotze

I actually believe working here is affecting my physical health .

If it's the kind of environment I'm envisioning, then it more than likely is. Some people don't even realize how much of an impact mental stress can have on a persons physical well-being.

Fotze,
I tried a number of different things. Now that I've finally found a good boss, I can honestly say the job you have is irrelevant if you work for a crappy boss. The work I do now is often times looked-down upon by some and almost everyone seems to think it's this incredibly labouress type of job that should have me on painkillers all day. It's not the case. Compare now to when I worked in an office or when I carried a TV camera around and I can tell you I couldn't feel better physically or mentally. I go to work everyday looking forward to it because I know the guy I work for wants me to be there. When a mistake is made, no temper tanturms ensue. You fix it and move on to the next thing.

As you know, I work as a framer and I worked for other guys before this one and hated it. Now I love it and it's all because of the guy I work for and simply put, nothing else. I would suggest to get the hell out of there because people like that have a way of dragging you down with them and you don't want nor need that. I wish you the best of luck in making your decision.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Clarkey

Job security? Aren't you a mechanical engineer. You'll be able to find a job in a couple hours.

Careful with the burning bridges, it's a small industry in some ways.

Agreed. You obviously need to get out of there. I wouldn't do anything drastic, but try to get an exit interview, and make it very clear that they are losing you because of this individual, but that you otherwise liked the company and the people you worked with.

Sometimes companies do learn though. My immediate supervisor was a jackass, and he nearly drove me and one of my friends out of the company in the fall. HIS boss asked us to stay a little longer, arguing that things would be different soon.

Turns out that when the latest reorg hit, my supervisor - who was very smug in his belief that he was untouchable - got punted, and we are starting to get to a better position. Apparently the jackass even submitted very poor reviews for the two of us, which management immediately rejected as BS. Even from afar, they recognized who was pulling their weight around there, and who wasnt.