The Juno's...what the hell?

[Clarkey]

Rex Godie and Kalan Porter are both nominated for album of the year and artist of the year. What a joke.

These two turdburglers best albums don't even compare to an average Neil Young album. I'm not really in tune with much of the current Canadian artists but there has to be better out there than these goofs.

It's not like award shows have ever rewarded the best music/musicians, instead opting for the highest sellers, but this is just stupid.

[MJK]

Go Rex! He rocks the Rock!

[troutman]

And Nickleback (yeeech) got 6 nominations.

Junos are a joke, especially when this is a new golden age in Canadian music. Albums from Canadian artists are topping many end-of-year critics lists. CRTC CANCON rules only prop up lame lowest common denominator bands that don't need the exposure.

Deserving more attention:

Arcade Fire, New Pornographers, Weakerthans, Metric, Broken Social Scene, Wolf Parade etc.

[kermitology]

Gotta agree with New Pornographers,

but there's a tonne of great Canadian talent out there!
Stars, Feist, Joel Plaskett, Christene Fellows, The Weakerthans, I could go on.

But that's not what gets played on the radio.

[Engine09]

Rex Godie? Who the hell is that?

Kalan Porter? That that the shemale with a perm who plays the fiddle? I saw it's video once and couldn't believe what I was seeing.

Nickleback is the single most embarrasing band on the airwaves right now. Anyone who likes them basically admits to their garbage taste and reveals their crap personality.

Pathetic.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Gotta agree with New Pornographers,

but there's a tonne of great Canadian talent out there!
Stars, Feist, Joel Plaskett, Christene Fellows, The Weakerthans, I could go on.

But that's not what gets played on the radio.

Sorry, my post might have been confusing. The bands I listed are bands that are deserving of more attention IMO. I'm going to see the New Pornographers Saturday night at Mac Hall.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Kryzsky

Rex Godie? Who the hell is that?

Exactly. We should probably be glad we don't know. Every music awards show on the planet is pure crap these days, why should the Juno's be any different?

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Exactly. We should probably be glad we don't know. Every awards show on the planet is pure crap these days, why should the Juno's be any different?

There we go. Fixed it for you. Seriously, how many times do we need to congratulate some entertainer for making a ****ty movie/tv show/album.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Kryzsky

Nickleback is the single most embarrasing band on the airwaves right now. Anyone who likes them basically admits to their garbage taste and reveals their crap personality.

So glad to see that you think somebody is garbage just because they like something that you hate.

Originally Posted by Kryzsky

Pathetic.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

There we go. Fixed it for you. Seriously, how many times do we need to congratulate some entertainer for making a ****ty movie/tv show/album.

lol..agreed. Also, perhaps we should all just thank God directly for blessing these people with such talents, and we won't have to listen to them do it at the crappy awards shows. We'll just cut out the middle men/women.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Kryzsky

Nickleback is the single most embarrasing band on the airwaves right now. Anyone who likes them basically admits to their garbage taste and reveals their crap personality.

No, it basically just reveals who has tollerance for other types of music....

There are all different kinds of music for all different kinds of music. Is Indian music crap? I don't like it, but I know that there are a whole variety of people who do. Since I don't like it but they do, is their personality crap? NOT A CHANCE.

Nickleback isn't one of my most favorite bands... but I will not join the current apparent popular loud minority that absolutely hates them.

[icarus]

Different strokes for different folks.

However, even though I haven't heard the albums from these Canadian Idols, but I am skeptical that any critic who has listened to the entire panoply of Canadian music released in the past year would objectively include these in the top five.

[Engine09]

No, it basically just reveals who has tollerance for other types of music....

There are all different kinds of music for all different kinds of music. Is Indian music crap? I don't like it, but I know that there are a whole variety of people who do. Since I don't like it but they do, is their personality crap? NOT A CHANCE.

Nickleback isn't one of my most favorite bands... but I will not join the current apparent popular loud minority that absolutely hates them.

I don't know what's more funny. The fact that you dropped money for their albums or that you feel offended enough to go on a little tirade.

That band sucks, real bad. Anyone with even an elementary knowledge of music know where they fit in the grand scheme of things. Faceless, nameless garbage produced for the masses. FM refuse that fits perfectly into the playlists of programmers who are only interested in selling advertising and opening their ass for whoever wants to give them prize money for the current terrible and whorish contest they are running.

Peopel who buy this crap and just perpetuating all that is wrong with music.

[Kybosh]

Originally Posted by Kryzsky

People who buy this crap are just perpetuating all that is wrong with music.

I don't really see what the big problem is. We live in a free society and as such everyone is entitled to like/dislike whatever they want. Who cares if someone likes Nickleback or Britney Spears? Doesn't mean I have to listen to it. If a band/song makes someone happy is that so wrong?

Another thing is that it often takes time to locate more obscure artists for the average person. Maybe the parents in the crowd can confirm this. Do you guys have the time to sit down and research "good" versus "bad" music? Is it just easier to click on the radio? Does that make you a bad person? When you look at things that way it is kind of ridiculous.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

I don't really see what the big problem is. We live in a free society and as such everyone is entitled to like/dislike whatever they want. Who cares if someone likes Nickleback or Britney Spears? Doesn't mean I have to listen to it. If a band/song makes someone happy is that so wrong?

Another thing is that it often takes time to locate more obscure artists for the average person. Maybe the parents in the crowd can confirm this. Do you guys have the time to sit down and research "good" versus "bad" music? Is it just easier to click on the radio? Does that make you a bad person? When you look at things that way it is kind of ridiculous.

IMO, your second paragraph answers the first. The problem with crap on the radio is that is makes it difficult for people to find good music.
There's a good chance that many people only listen to crap because it's all they've been exposed to and would listen to good stuff if they had some exposure.
...And it increases the stupidity of our society. If kids grow up listening/watching to crap all the time, they end up morons. If they listened to some good music that says something worth saying, they might just learn something and expand their minds. It would benefit society all around.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by icarus

Different strokes for different folks.

However, even though I haven't heard the albums from these Canadian Idols, but I am skeptical that any critic who has listened to the entire panoply of Canadian music released in the past year would objectively include these in the top five.

the full list of nominees:

http://www.junoawards.ca/06_2006_nominees.php

looks like there are at least two and maybe more additional Canadian Idol finalist types who are nominated. that is pretty poor

if you scroll down enough into the songwriter and 'alternative' categories there are some nominees that are more to my taste anyways

but yes I agree different strokes for different folks

[The Goon]

What defines "alternative"? Follow-up question, what defines "adult alternative?" Why are there two separate "alternative" categories?

[looooob]

Originally Posted by The Goon

What defines "alternative"? Follow-up question, what defines "adult alternative?" Why are there two separate "alternative" categories?

as best I can tell

Alternative = artists that don't sell a crateload of albums, but sell enough that people have heard of them

Adult alternative = artists that don't sell a crateload of albums, but sold enough about 5 years ago that people over 35 have heard of them. or they fit the above definition of alternative and play acoustic guitars

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Kryzsky

Peopel who buy this crap and just perpetuating all that is wrong with music.

So it goes though. I totally agree with you about Nickelback and bands like them, but I think it's more because the industry has become more of a machine, just wanting to churn out easy to rehash products that they can sell units with. Profit first, not art. A & R job description has changed. Used to be, go out, find the next cool sound. Now, its go out, find a neat and tidy sound, and then find (or manufacture) 100 bands just like it. It's like the big wigs of the industry have completely eliminated the market for genuinely talented creative bands. We just have to realize most people are not really big music fans...people like you and I might have several hundred or thousands of albums in our collection. A lot of people i know have less than 50. Look at it this way, we're lucky that we have the internet now. I can avoid the garbage and find more quality than ever before, if I put in a little effort. I haven't needed to listen to crappy mainstream radio for years now. I don't miss it. The Nickelback fans can have it.

[FireFly]

Hedley is a Canadian Idol fronted band with Jacob Hoggard as it's lead singer. The difference between him and Kalan Porter/Rex Goudie is that Jacob writes his own music. Same with Billy Klippert who recorded a phenomenal album that didn't get airtime outside of Halifax and Winnipeg.