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Old 04-23-2025, 01:38 PM   #1
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Default 12 years Ago Today - The worst Forward group any NHL team has ever iced?

April 23rd, 2013, This is the lineup of forwards the Flames iced against the Predators - with their career NHL Point totals cumulative to the end of the 12/13 season: (too lazy to figure out how many points each player had going into that game)

Akim Aliu (3) (3 career points)
Sven Baertchi (13)
Carter Bancks (0 career points)
Paul Byron (8)
Roman Cervenka (17) (17 career points)
Ben Hanowski (1) (3 career points)
Roman Horak (18) (19 career points)
Jiri Hudler (238)
Blair Jones (15) (17 career points)
Brian McGrattan (19) (27 career points)
Max Reinhart (3) (5 career points)
Ben Street (1) (9 career points)

Yes, that's correct, in this game, at the END of the regular season, the Flames dressed only ONE forward with more that 19 career points at the time.

The Defense was slightly better:
Babchuk
Brodie
Butler
Cundari (3) (3 career points)
Giordano
Wideman
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I'm guessing you could find much worse if you dug up the game-day rosters of the Kansas City Scouts, or the Capitals in their expansion year. Those players would have higher career totals, but only because they had to play the whole season for those incredibly awful teams – there was nobody to take their place.

In 1974-75, there were 18 teams in the NHL, 14 in the WHA, virtually no Europeans in either league, and far fewer Americans than there are now. Imagine what the quality of the NHL would be like even now if it only had Canadian players to draw on. Then factor in the huge difference in training and development, and remember that the Scouts and Capitals got the leavings that none of the other 30 teams wanted. Those teams were baaaaaad.
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Considering it was his first time playing in North America and he missed both training camp and the first part of the season with a bloodclot, Cervenka was not bad.

He was a little soft and little slow, but the rest of his skills were NHL-caliber. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if he stuck around for another season
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I'm guessing you could find much worse if you dug up the game-day rosters of the Kansas City Scouts, or the Capitals in their expansion year. Those players would have higher career totals, but only because they had to play the whole season for those incredibly awful teams – there was nobody to take their place.

In 1974-75, there were 18 teams in the NHL, 14 in the WHA, virtually no Europeans in either league, and far fewer Americans than there are now. Imagine what the quality of the NHL would be like even now if it only had Canadian players to draw on. Then factor in the huge difference in training and development, and remember that the Scouts and Capitals got the leavings that none of the other 30 teams wanted. Those teams were baaaaaad.
Throw in the Colorado Rockies
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I remember being happy for Carter Bancks to get a game or two. Dude just played hard in the AHL and got rewarded. Nothing wrong with that when the season is over anyway and all you're left caring about is draft position.
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Ben Hanowski and Cundari. Wasn’t that the return for Iginla?

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Ben Hanowski and Cundari. Wasn’t that the return for Iginla?

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Hanowski, Agostino and a 1st for Iginla

Cundari, Berra and a 1st for Bouwmeester
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Ben Hanowski and Cundari. Wasn’t that the return for Iginla?

Yikes
Didn't help that the captain basically said he would go to 2 teams (Boston and Pitt) and after Calgary had a deal with Boston, said "naw, just Pitt".

The Bruins deal was Matt Bartkowski, Alexander Khokhlachev and a first-round draft pick. Not much better.
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Cundari and the legendary Reto Berra were part of the Bouwmeester "haul".

Hanowski and Augostino were the two in the Iginla deal.
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Didn't help that the captain basically said he would go to 2 teams (Boston and Pitt) and after Calgary had a deal with Boston, said "naw, just Pitt".

The Bruins deal was Matt Bartkowski, Alexander Khokhlachev and a first-round draft pick. Not much better.
I remember some people thought Khokhlachev would have been a nice add. Did well in the AHL, but ended up with 9 career games in the NHL. Zero points.

In the end, the Iginla trade was a lose/lose situation for the Flames, but it didn't help that they essentially tanked both the 1sts that they got for Iginla and Bouwmeester (Poirier and Klimchuk).
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I remember some people thought Khokhlachev would have been a nice add. Did well in the AHL, but ended up with 9 career games in the NHL. Zero points.

In the end, the Iginla trade was a lose/lose situation for the Flames, but it didn't help that they essentially tanked both the 1sts that they got for Iginla and Bouwmeester (Poirier and Klimchuk).
Poirier in particular was a bad pick because right after you had Burakovsky and Theodore both go. Though at the time Hunter Shinkaruk was the guy most were upset about the Flames not taking.
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Throw in the Colorado Rockies
Same franchise as the Scouts. But definitely true. The Rockies were truly abysmal.

I could also add the Cleveland Barons, who lasted only two seasons in that city before folding completely.

After the Barons folded, instead of holding a dispersal draft, the league simply allowed their owner to buy the last-place Minnesota North Stars and merge the two rosters. The combined teams still finished last in their division the following year and missed the playoffs.
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Hanowski, Agostino and a 1st for Iginla

Cundari, Berra and a 1st for Bouwmeester
Did the 1st become anything or get flipped for anything?
I can't remember if the trade tree returned anything useful eventually.
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Did the 1st become anything or get flipped for anything?
I can't remember if the trade tree returned anything useful eventually.
The 1st round picks from the Bouwmeester and Iginla deals were used to take Poirier and Klimchuk. Neither made it as NHLers
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