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Old 05-31-2024, 12:40 PM   #1
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Flames According to Coleman, Tkachuk wanted to stay

https://thewincolumn.ca/2024/05/31/r...nding-a-trade/

So similiar to Gaudreau, Tre's terrible negotiating ability cost us a star player.
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Did they not watch the interview...I'm pretty sure he was talking about Gaudreau at that moment, not Tkachuk.
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I already hate this thread. This topic will always be a sore spot for me.
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Old 05-31-2024, 12:43 PM   #4
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Did they not watch the interview...I'm pretty sure he was talking about Gaudreau at that moment, not Tkachuk.
I don’t think it’s a stretch that Tkachuk would have stayed if Gaudreau stayed. Either way that bridge contract was brutal.
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Treliving is responsible for what has to be one of the worst management fumbles in NHL history.
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Old 05-31-2024, 12:45 PM   #6
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He is talking about Johnny, and said they tried to negotiate a deal the summer prior which everyone knows about.

It's the same thing over and over again. He was not going to get a big deal after 2.5 poor seasons.
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I don’t think it’s a stretch that Tkachuk would have stayed if Gaudreau stayed. Either way that bridge contract was brutal.
The article says that Tkachuk wanted to re-sign...that's not what the interview says though.

The interview was saying that Johnny specifically was the one that wanted to re-sign the year prior and wasn't happy with how it went.

Which isn't news there were rumors from that offseason that the Flames were about $1M apart and couldn't find a medium.
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People let Tre off the hook way too much saying so much was out if his control.

He had multiple opportunities thay would have led to much better outcomes and he didn't take them.

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Old 05-31-2024, 01:00 PM   #9
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Who cares. What happened happened. We need to move on here.

Only way Calgary ever wins a cup is by full commitment to a rebuild. I wonder how long it’ll take Murray to realize that because it’s obvious to most other people.
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Here is the interview.

https://dailyhive.com/calgary/colema...-extend-flames

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Old 05-31-2024, 01:06 PM   #11
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People let Tre off the hook way too much saying so much was out if his control.

He had multiple opportunities thay would have led to.kucjbetter outcomes and he didn't take them.
Not I.

I am perfectly aware that Treliving screwed this team hard and he screwed it long. He was an incompetent Buffoon.

And I am no 'Insider' but every single person I've talked to has indicated that Ownership never wanted him back. Which is why he wasn't allowed to negotiate with other teams.

The change of that decision came because his Dad basically begged for it.

And for whatever reason Toronto decided: "oh yes! That! Lets get us some of that!"

Treliving should have been fired a long time ago.
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I think this all speaks highly of Coleman IMO, who mentions he just signed a 6 year deal. He could have been pissed and jilted and wanted out but he's been a complete pro.
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I think this all speaks highly of Coleman IMO, who mentions he just signed a 6 year deal. He could have been pissed and jilted and wanted out but he's been a complete pro.
Coleman is the man.
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That isn't what he said.

He said Gaudreau wanted to stay and tried to get a contract done the year prior and he wasn't happy about how that process was going.

He said maybe Tkachuk would have stayed in Johnny did but he isn't sure.
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He is talking about Johnny, and said they tried to negotiate a deal the summer prior which everyone knows about.

It's the same thing over and over again. He was not going to get a big deal after 2.5 poor seasons.
I wouldn't say they were poor seasons at just below a PPG and he was saddled with a Babcock clone in Peters and a guy that was out of his element as a coach in Ward. Treliving did what he always did when it came to contract negotiations and played hardball. Regardless it's in the past now and it's time to just move on.

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I wouldn't say they were poor seasons at just below a PPG and he was saddled with a Babcock clone in Peters and a guy that was out of his element as a coach in Ward. Treliving did what he always did when it came to contract negotiations and played hardball.
A caveat to his contract negotiations is needed. He negotiated with players already on the team and overpaid UFAs. Even more frustrating
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Treliving is responsible for what has to be one of the worst management fumbles in NHL history.
Amusing to think that the Toronto organization saw that and immediately was like "we need to give this guy the keys to our team."
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