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Old 12-30-2005, 09:27 AM   #1
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Had to laff when I saw this article...good on Bjorn for having the balls to do this! I wonder what the people would say if it was marketed here in Canada or even the good ole USA?

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"It is an active statement against Christianity," Atldax told The Associated Press. "I'm not a Satanist myself, but I have a great dislike for organized religion."
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:49 AM   #2
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And in about 19 seconds, someone will copy the idea and start selling anti-athiest jeans.
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Old 12-30-2005, 10:18 AM   #3
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And in about 19 seconds, someone will copy the idea and start selling anti-athiest jeans.
Hmmm Christian fashions Snakeeye? Think people are lining up to take fashion advice from the people that brought us Berkinstocks, head bonnets and frankly anything plain and lame!?
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:30 AM   #4
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Strange how they wouldnt choose another religion to mock.

I think you can point this at another pointless attempt to get on the Anti-American bandwagon by Euros - I wouldnt be surprised that in Ottawa, TO, Montreal, and Vancouver this catches on as well.

Its unfortuante that some people in the world dont care about anything other than themselves. I dont go to church, but believe in the same book as those who do, and those jeans make me wanna knee someone in the gut.

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Strange how they wouldnt choose another religion to mock.

I think you can point this at another pointless attempt to get on the Anti-American bandwagon by Euros - I wouldnt be surprised that in Ottawa, TO, Montreal, and Vancouver this catches on as well.

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You realize of course that Christianity is a religion in Europe as well, and it was there, I'm fairly certain, just a little while before it was in the US of A. It's a bit of a reach (almost to the level of paranoia) to say that mocking Christianity in Sweden = Anti-Americanism.

I dont go to church, but believe in the same book as those who do, and those jeans make me wanna knee someone in the gut.

Have you actually read the book you believe in? You just might have missed the point. I'm no theologian but I'm pretty sure the main character wouldn't approve of kneeing someone in the gut.

Anyhow, I'm sure the guy is hoping for a big uproar about this in the States but I don't know that he'll get it. Not so long ago Ozzy Osbourne and "Jesus is my homeboy" t-shirts were all the rage down there. Mr. Swedishjeans isn't exactly breaking new ground.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:09 PM   #6
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Strange how they wouldnt choose another religion to mock.

I think you can point this at another pointless attempt to get on the Anti-American bandwagon by Euros - I wouldnt be surprised that in Ottawa, TO, Montreal, and Vancouver this catches on as well.

Its unfortuante that some people in the world dont care about anything other than themselves. I dont go to church, but believe in the same book as those who do, and those jeans make me wanna knee someone in the gut.

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LOL. Anti-Americanism?
How do you come up with these things??
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:17 PM   #7
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Just to play devil's adovate for a sec (pun intended)...

Would an anti-jew, anti-islam, or anti-scientology (ehhhrrmmm) fashion ever fly?

I'm not very sympathetic to those Christians who cry discrimination, but to me this is an example of a symbol that could only be applied to christians without complete condemnation.
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Just to play devil's adovate for a sec (pun intended)...

Would an anti-jew, anti-islam, or anti-scientology (ehhhrrmmm) fashion ever fly?

I'm not very sympathetic to those Christians who cry discrimination, but to me this is an example of a symbol that could only be applied to christians without complete condemnation.
I think you're probobly right. Christianity is seen as the big fish of religion, therefore people are less defensive of it then other religions. I think it's also important to note the source of the fashions as well. The jeans, like the homeboy T-shirts and other things are coming from within countries that have a Christian following, not from an outside culture, such as an islamic country. Since it's people poking fun at their own societies, I think it's taken more lightly.
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The guy should put out different styles too: the anti-semetic baggy fits, the slim fit anti-muslims, or the anti-buddhism cargo jeans...

It doesn't make sense to me that his protest against religion is to specifically take a shot at chrisitianity..as has been said, if he made a mockery of other religions, he'd be getting more than an earful right now. Christians are just too forgiving...basically, its just tasteless to take shots at people for no reason. I hate organized religion, and would never buy these jeans or design a logo with the sole purpose of offending people.
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Just to play devil's adovate for a sec (pun intended)...

Would an anti-jew, anti-islam, or anti-scientology (ehhhrrmmm) fashion ever fly?

I'm not very sympathetic to those Christians who cry discrimination, but to me this is an example of a symbol that could only be applied to christians without complete condemnation.
Depends what country you are in to be honest. I think if an "Outsider" wore one of those items of clothing, they would get plenty more negative reaction.

If you wore a T-shirt denouncing the star of David, you would probably be labelled anti-semitic. If someone who was born in Israel for example wore that T-shirt, he'd probably get a slightly less negative reaction.

If you wore an anti-scientology T-shirt, you'd probably have people come up to you and say "yeah those guys are pretty ######ed up".
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Hmmm Christian fashions Snakeeye? Think people are lining up to take fashion advice from the people that brought us Berkinstocks, head bonnets and frankly anything plain and lame!?
Don't forget such classic Christian fashions like the chastity belt.

In any case, being the de facto religion of western civilization for two millenia means Christianity usually suffers the brunt of discrimination/insults/mocking/hatred/opposition in modern "enlightened liberal" society and a world where western countries (especially Europe) are almost completely secular these days - whereas other religions are often afforded too much political correctness and sensitivity.

But the irony is that this is the actual spirit of Christianity really, turn the other cheek, let the Romans persecute you and throw you to the lions, etc.

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