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Old 10-31-2023, 11:24 AM   #1
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I don't know if this topic will pick up steam, but I felt compelled to start it after the terrible goalie interference call against the Ducks yesterday. You would think they were playing against the Oilers with a call like that.

Or maybe someone can explain to me how this is goalie interference. I can understand the refs waving it off at first based on the goalie's reaction and that it may have been difficult to see what happened, but I was pretty surprised that they upheld the call after review (and they only took 15 seconds to review it).

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Old 10-31-2023, 11:28 AM   #2
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Just brutal

That was classic EK defending
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Old 10-31-2023, 11:28 AM   #3
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Watching the Heritage Classic was a pretty bad call. Probably the worst of the year.

Oh, you mean officiating calls…
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If this thread is going to be about terrible calls the thread will be at 76 pages in a week. The NHL has an officiating problem and has for years. Zero accountability and these guys think they are the show and control the games and outcomes.
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I don't think it impeded Jarry's attempt to make a save so it should have been a goal but the Ducks forward did push the Penguins defenseman into the goaltender. It's probably a call where they would stick with what was called on the ice but I personally don't think the NHL even knows what goaltender interference is as it seems like a moving target for them.
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Old 10-31-2023, 11:43 AM   #6
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Something tells me this thread is gonna end up being 80% calls from Oiler games, considering how often the officials fall for McDingleberry's "hold a guy's stick while falling down" BS.
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Anaheim ended up with no goal and down 5 on 3 because of this lol. If the ref is gonna make a call like this grow a pair and have a thicker skin. Coach was also tossed.

Ducks still won

At some point the dman losing a battle this bad has to be a factor too
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Old 10-31-2023, 12:34 PM   #8
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At no point did the Duck touch the goalie.

At no point did the goalie want to occupy the space the Duck was in.

Literally zero reason to call that off.
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Something tells me this thread is gonna end up being 80% calls from Oiler games, considering how often the officials fall for McDingleberry's "hold a guy's stick while falling down" BS.
Remember, Connor is the best player in the world and 100% honest every time
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Old 10-31-2023, 05:12 PM   #10
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Ras getting the same suspension for an head hit as McAvoy even though McAvoy has already been suspended for a head hit
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Old 10-31-2023, 05:18 PM   #11
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Not only was that not goalie interference, but Anaheim got penalized for the review and then another bench minor for arguing the result of the review.

A goal taken away, plus a two minute 5 on 3 for literally nothing. Someone had money on the under for that game.
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Did McAvoy end up with more or less games than Andersson ?
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At no point did the Duck touch the goalie.

At no point did the goalie want to occupy the space the Duck was in.

Literally zero reason to call that off.
???????

Only Mike Smith plays a slot shot from the goal line.

He went to push out, and had nowhere to go. You push out towards the shooter when they get a puck from behind the net in the slot… he tracks it the whole way.
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???????

Only Mike Smith plays a slot shot from the goal line.

He went to push out, and had nowhere to go. You push out towards the shooter when they get a puck from behind the net in the slot… he tracks it the whole way.
He had nowhere to go because his own man impeded his positioning.
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???????

Only Mike Smith plays a slot shot from the goal line.

He went to push out, and had nowhere to go. You push out towards the shooter when they get a puck from behind the net in the slot… he tracks it the whole way.
To me, it looked like the shooter was in the circle, not the slot. The goalie had plenty of room to come out and challenge and was only impede (by his own player) because he started to try to slide to the right. His own player stopped him from sliding even further out of position, but either way, he was getting beat on the short side.
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Oh boy... I think y'all need to carefully re-read the rulebook. That's textbook goalie interference.

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At no point did the Duck touch the goalie.

At no point did the goalie want to occupy the space the Duck was in.

Literally zero reason to call that off.
Carrick did not need to touch the goalie for it to be interference. When the attacking player is in the crease if the goalie's ability to position himself in his crease is impaired in any way, it's interference.

That said, in this case Jarry definitely did want to occupy space that Carrick and Karlsson were in, and could not do so because of Carrick's actions, thus it's goalie interference. Watch the replay slowly and you'll see Jarry attempts to drop his right pad a split second before the shot, but Karlsson's left foot is in the way, and Jarry's blocker contacts the back of Carrick's left calf. They made contact: it's interference.

Now, you might argue that contact between Karlsson and Jarry, or Karlsson impeding Jarry's movement, shouldn't count, like Mass_nerder here:

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To me, it looked like the shooter was in the circle, not the slot. The goalie had plenty of room to come out and challenge and was only impede (by his own player) because he started to try to slide to the right. His own player stopped him from sliding even further out of position, but either way, he was getting beat on the short side.
However, contact between a defensive player and goalie where the defensive player was "pushed, shoved, or fouled by an attacking player so as to cause the defending player to come into contact with his own goalkeeper" is "deemed contact initiated by the attacking player". And note: it doesn't matter if the goalie's positioning for attempting the save was sound or not. It doesn't matter if Jarry would have otherwise saved the shot or not. Even if the puck would have gone in because Jarry made a poor save selection, any impediment to Jarry's positioning is still interference.

As Erick Estrada pointed out:

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I don't think it impeded Jarry's attempt to make a save so it should have been a goal but the Ducks forward did push the Penguins defenseman into the goaltender.
Karlsson was pushed by Carrick's left elbow, Karlsson's left foot impeded Jarry's right pad, and Karlsson pushed off Jarry's right arm and hip to stay upright and not fall on Jarry entirely: all of this was due to Carrick pushing/shoving Karlsson, thus it's deemed (incidental) contact initiated by Carrick. And again, by virtue of this occurring in the crease, any impediment to the goalie's "ability to defend his goal" caused by the attacking player being there, counts as goalie interference.

Had Carrick been standing about two feet forward, outside of the crease, this wouldn't have mattered.



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Anaheim ended up with no goal and down 5 on 3 because of this lol. If the ref is gonna make a call like this grow a pair and have a thicker skin. Coach was also tossed.
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Not only was that not goalie interference, but Anaheim got penalized for the review and then another bench minor for arguing the result of the review.
You can argue the call, but you can't scream "#### you! That's a ####ing bull call, that's ####ing bullcrap! [...] ####ing ###hole," because that's directed at the official, and directing foul language at an official is textbook unsportsmanlike conduct.
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I think the majority of GMs pulled would want that called a goal
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I think the majority of GMs pulled would want that called a goal
What would the backup GM who goes in say though?
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Did McAvoy end up with more or less games than Andersson ?
Same, 4 games
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