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08-17-2022, 12:30 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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If you want to add some speed to the top line I love the idea of Dube on that line
I like Mangiapane on a 2nd line as he produces away from star players.
Toffoli is to slow for the first line
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08-17-2022, 12:31 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I wouldn't want our next 2 all in seasons to pivot on dube as he hasn't shown he can do it, whereas Tkachuk has been excellent and showed flashes since day 1. Would much rather bring in a proven talent in our win now mode.
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08-17-2022, 12:35 PM
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If he keeps up the momentum he had in the last third of the regular season (21pts in his last 34 games), maybe. Assuming we bring a #2C in, there is probably going to be a lot of mixing and matching on the wings for every line to find the best combination.
I like how receptive he is to Sutter's coaching, he spoke about how much Sutter did to improve his game back in March. Sutter also had some praise for him too.
Of course this is assuming he is not in trouble with the Hockey Canada stuff, still have to wait and see about that.
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08-17-2022, 01:08 PM
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I like the idea of trying to find a diamond in the rough for the first line. And I have always been a fan of Dube - I think he has another level - but I don't think he is the player for that role. It needs to be someone with sniper potential.
For the same reasons the OP suggested Dube, I think Pelletier is worth a try. Can score and can play a two-way game. If him and Huberdeau connected, the Flames instantly get deeper.
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08-17-2022, 01:13 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I like the idea of trying to find a diamond in the rough for the first line. And I have always been a fan of Dube - I think he has another level - but I don't think he is the player for that role. It needs to be someone with sniper potential.
For the same reasons the OP suggested Dube, I think Pelletier is worth a try. Can score and can play a two-way game. If him and Huberdeau connected, the Flames instantly get deeper.
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Not saying Pelletier isn't up for it but that's a lot to throw at a guy who hasn't played in this league yet.
I would be so pumped if that worked out though. For the reasons you already mentioned that line clicking would be huge.
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08-17-2022, 01:16 PM
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I have a feeling Huberdeau and Pelletier are going to be good buddies. The birth of Little Quebec to complement our Little Sweden
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08-17-2022, 01:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I like the idea of trying to find a diamond in the rough for the first line. And I have always been a fan of Dube - I think he has another level - but I don't think he is the player for that role. It needs to be someone with sniper potential.
For the same reasons the OP suggested Dube, I think Pelletier is worth a try. Can score and can play a two-way game. If him and Huberdeau connected, the Flames instantly get deeper.
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Dube's shot is pretty good as far as velocity is concerned. He's a little off balance at times. But he does have the wheels. I'd like to see what he can do with high end linemates.
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08-17-2022, 01:24 PM
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First Line Centre
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I like it, Dube at 1RW or 3C to start the season would please me.
Toffoli makes a lot of sense too just because he's a goal scorer and imo looked terrible on the 3rd line.
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08-17-2022, 01:25 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJones
I like it, Dube at 1RW or 3C to start the season would please me.
Toffoli makes a lot of sense too just because he's a goal scorer and imo looked terrible on the 3rd line.
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If Dube can find success on the first line, a third line of Pelletier-Monahan-Toffoli has a lot of promise working against lesser opposition.
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08-17-2022, 01:46 PM
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Location: Calgary
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I think there will be some intense competition for top line minutes and that's awesome because Sutter challenges them, they challenge each other and we beat that damn horse to death on CP.
It's all good. I'm stoked to see WHO comes in and blows the doors off and joins Hubey Doo and Lord Zebulon in terrorism of the league.
I just hope that a successful regular season it can be followed up by these same fellas when the real season starts.
Go Flames
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08-17-2022, 01:46 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Lime
If Dube can find success on the first line, a third line of Pelletier-Monahan-Toffoli has a lot of promise working against lesser opposition.
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Except its a rookie with two guys that can't skate.
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08-17-2022, 01:51 PM
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I don’t believe the Flames traded a 1st round pick and a prospect drafted in the 2nd round for a bottom 6 forward. I really believe Toffoli should be given a very long look on the top line which gives the team 2 snipers on the number 1 line with the best playmaking LW in the league.
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08-17-2022, 02:41 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I like the idea of trying to find a diamond in the rough for the first line. And I have always been a fan of Dube - I think he has another level - but I don't think he is the player for that role. It needs to be someone with sniper potential.
For the same reasons the OP suggested Dube, I think Pelletier is worth a try. Can score and can play a two-way game. If him and Huberdeau connected, the Flames instantly get deeper.
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“He’s just a kid. I’ve said it before, there’s lots of these guys who were here before they should have been. They should have been learning the game and playing a little longer in the American League level. He’s his own worst critic, and he listens, and I’m good with that.” - Darryl Sutter in April on Dube.
I would think that Pelletier spends another season in the AHL before getting a shot. His and Dube's progression have been nearly identical. Two very good years of junior after getting drafted and then basically PPG seasons in the AHL as rookies. Only difference is that Dube was "rushed" and was called up for 25games. Pelletier has done nothing to show that he would be better than Dube at the NHL level.
Lets not go crazy on expectations, Pelletier is closer to the AHL than being a Dube replacement or even making the team this coming year.
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08-17-2022, 03:20 PM
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Location: NC
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Toffoli will get the first look. You couldn’t break up the hottest line in the league last season, so Toffoli was utilized as a middle 6 winger. Now that there is a vacant spot, it’s his to lose.
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08-17-2022, 03:39 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I don’t believe the Flames traded a 1st round pick and a prospect drafted in the 2nd round for a bottom 6 forward. I really believe Toffoli should be given a very long look on the top line which gives the team 2 snipers on the number 1 line with the best playmaking LW in the league.
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He needs to work on adding even half a step if possible....he is terribly slow. However this might work well as Huberdeau is not the fleetest of foot.
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08-17-2022, 03:44 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by yourbestfriend
“He’s just a kid. I’ve said it before, there’s lots of these guys who were here before they should have been. They should have been learning the game and playing a little longer in the American League level. He’s his own worst critic, and he listens, and I’m good with that.” - Darryl Sutter in April on Dube.
I would think that Pelletier spends another season in the AHL before getting a shot. His and Dube's progression have been nearly identical. Two very good years of junior after getting drafted and then basically PPG seasons in the AHL as rookies. Only difference is that Dube was "rushed" and was called up for 25games. Pelletier has done nothing to show that he would be better than Dube at the NHL level.
Lets not go crazy on expectations, Pelletier is closer to the AHL than being a Dube replacement or even making the team this coming year.
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Agree with you completely. It happened 2 years ago with some people penciling Valimaki into the top 4 and then now again with some wanting to see Pelletier in the top 6.
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08-17-2022, 03:46 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Since1984
He needs to work on adding even half a step if possible....he is terribly slow. However this might work well as Huberdeau is not the fleetest of foot.
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Hopefully with a full summer to prepare for Sutter hockey he will be better. We hear about how the team was a step slower when Sutter came in mid-season and how they were much better conditioned for camp last year.
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08-17-2022, 03:50 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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If we don't see anymore changes then my guess is we see:
Huberdeau-Lindholm-Toffoli (man was it weird not penciling in Gaudreau as top line LW)
Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman
Pelletier - Monahan/Ruzicka - Dube
Lucic - Rooney - Lewis
Could use another top 9 forward for sure.
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