[Rumour] Vezina Trophy Finalists

[Cheese]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1523675764805484544

[Enoch Root]

no surprises there

[MrMike]

Runaway for Shesterkin, with Markstrom in second is my guess.

[topfiverecords]

No Smitty?

[Looch City]

Wtf Oilers robbed.

[dino7c]

"not elite"

[Eric Vail]

I dont understand the runaway status of Shesterkin.

Wins he is 6th.
Save % he is 1st
GAA he is 1st
Shutouts 3rd

I could see him as a leading candidate, but not a runaway candidate. He seems to have been built up as having a season of the ages, making him an MVP candidate. He is no Hasek.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Wtf Oilers robbed.

Weekes is wrong. The three finalists should obviously be Smith, Koskinen and McDavid. McDavid obviously wins it, too.

[agulati]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I dont understand the runaway status of Shesterkin.

Wins he is 6th.
Save % he is 1st
GAA he is 1st
Shutouts 3rd

I could see him as a leading candidate, but not a runaway candidate. He seems to have been built up as having a season of the ages, making him an MVP candidate. He is no Hasek.

I think a factor is that generally the Rangers weren’t/aren’t seen as too strong of a squad, making his season even more impressive.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by agulati

I think a factor is that generally the Rangers weren’t/aren’t seen as too strong of a squad, making his season even more impressive.

The Flames were expected to finish around 10th in the division, by most. Funny how that is not taken into account for a Flame, but is for a Ranger.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I dont understand the runaway status of Shesterkin.

Wins he is 6th.
Save % he is 1st
GAA he is 1st
Shutouts 3rd

I could see him as a leading candidate, but not a runaway candidate. He seems to have been built up as having a season of the ages, making him an MVP candidate. He is no Hasek.

.935 is one of the best seasons of all time. Pretty impressive.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I dont understand the runaway status of Shesterkin.

Wins he is 6th.
Save % he is 1st
GAA he is 1st
Shutouts 3rd

I could see him as a leading candidate, but not a runaway candidate. He seems to have been built up as having a season of the ages, making him an MVP candidate. He is no Hasek.

Number of wins is potentially not the best stat because of variability in games played. If I'm not mistaken Shesterkin is #2 in win percentage though just behind Bobrovsky.

[OptimalTates]

I think Shesterkin also gets the backup-stats-suck bonus.

Georgiev, although progressively worse save percentage each year, had usually provided reasonable numbers behind Lundvist. Even arguably outperforming the legend in the latter years of his career.

But now Shesterkin is out there putting up 0.935 while his backup is Georgiev was putting up sub 0.900.

Sort of like with Kiprusoff's heydays when his save percentage was 20% over McLennan or putting in McElhinney was all but guaranteed to be a loss. There could be no mistake good Kiprusoff was. You couldn't argue the system, or the defense in front of him, because of how bad the other goalies performed in comparison.

I don't think this one will be particular close. It is voted on by the GMs so it will be a more nuanced vote, but if it was like the Norris and voted on by the media I think it would be by far the biggest difference between winner and second place without doubt. Still probably will be, but Markstrom will get Treliving's vote and maybe someone like Blake given how well he performed against the Kings this year.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I dont understand the runaway status of Shesterkin.

Wins he is 6th.
Save % he is 1st
GAA he is 1st
Shutouts 3rd

I could see him as a leading candidate, but not a runaway candidate. He seems to have been built up as having a season of the ages, making him an MVP candidate. He is no Hasek.

1st in GAA and 1st in Save% are leading indicators. You have both of those, you deserve the Vezina, no questions asked IMO.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I dont understand the runaway status of Shesterkin.

Wins he is 6th.
Save % he is 1st
GAA he is 1st
Shutouts 3rd

I could see him as a leading candidate, but not a runaway candidate. He seems to have been built up as having a season of the ages, making him an MVP candidate. He is no Hasek.

He is only 1st on the two most important stats for a goalie

And runaway with save %….

[agulati]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

The Flames were expected to finish around 10th in the division, by most. Funny how that is not taken into account for a Flame, but is for a Ranger.

Eastern conference bias for trophies is a thing.

[Kidder]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I dont understand the runaway status of Shesterkin.

Wins he is 6th.
Save % he is 1st
GAA he is 1st
Shutouts 3rd

I could see him as a leading candidate, but not a runaway candidate. He seems to have been built up as having a season of the ages, making him an MVP candidate. He is no Hasek.

I think save % is the most telling stat for a goaltender and it’s here he distinguishes himself.

His .935 is the highest mark of the last decade, 3rd highest since the lockout, and a full .010 higher than his next highest competitor this year, which is Sorokin at .925.

Not only that, his backup Georgiev, who also played a healthy 30+ games this season finished up with a .898 save percentage, proving it wasn’t just team defence earning those dazzling stats.

Funny enough if the Flames hadn’t lit Shesterkin up early in the season in two outings his stats would be even better.

Runaway for the Vezina IMO and could be a heart candidate. Though there’s no shortage of those this years, so a Vezina would be sufficient.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I dont understand the runaway status of Shesterkin.

Wins he is 6th.
Save % he is 1st
GAA he is 1st
Shutouts 3rd

I could see him as a leading candidate, but not a runaway candidate. He seems to have been built up as having a season of the ages, making him an MVP candidate. He is no Hasek.

Thats the answer to your question in addition to 'He plays for New York.'

Those are the two biggest metrics they consider for the Vezina.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I dont understand the runaway status of Shesterkin.

Wins he is 6th.
Save % he is 1st
GAA he is 1st
Shutouts 3rd

I could see him as a leading candidate, but not a runaway candidate. He seems to have been built up as having a season of the ages, making him an MVP candidate. He is no Hasek.

1st in the two most important stats. It would be like if a forward lead in goals and assists

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by agulati

Eastern conference bias for trophies is a thing.

With media rewarded awards, sure. With Vezina? Probably far less impactful. Of course the media gives nice PR to their front runners but the GMs are probably less swayed than the average person by that.

Originally Posted by Geeoff

1st in the two most important stats. It would be like if a forward lead in goals and assists

Unlike say the Norris or Hart where half the voters do just go online and look up who's winning the scoring race, the Vezina doesn't always go to the goalie with the best individual stats.

2019 would have been an easy Ben Bishop victory then. 0.934 save percentage (first), 1.98 GAA (second), but Vaslievskiy completely ran away with the award despite being sixth in save percentage and eighth in GAA.

Vote will still probably be:

27-4-1

Treliving, Poile, maybe another divisional rival of Nashville and Calgary who had nightmare games against Markstrom/Saros, less likely but maybe someone like BrisBois voting first for their starter like Vaesilevskiy as the second place votes.

Lowe (or whoever they pretend is the GM in Edmonton these days) voting Shesterkin third behind Smith and Koskinen.