03-08-2022, 03:02 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calaway Park
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Tkachuk > Lindholm
Love them both, but I think the narrative hasn't reflected what the numbers say. These have confirmed my view that Tkachuk really drives the play more than Lindy. I don't have time to take quotes from the article just yet, but wanted to start the conversation.
https://thewincolumn.ca/2022/03/08/m...o-way-forward/
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03-08-2022, 03:05 PM
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#2
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Franchise Player
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I think arguments can be made for both.
However, Lindholm plays C. And he costs about half what Tkachuk is going to cost next year.
End of conversation, AFAIC
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03-08-2022, 03:08 PM
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#3
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Franchise Player
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Lindholm is truly underrated.
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03-08-2022, 03:12 PM
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#4
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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It’s just about impossible to compare a Selke center goal scorer to, we’ll whatever you would consider Tkachuk is. Such different roles but both important to the line and teams success.
There is a reason Lindholm is +43 and Tkachuk is a measly +35
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03-08-2022, 03:21 PM
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#5
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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A team full of Lindholms would be the best team in the NHL.
A team full of Tkachuks would be…probably not very effective.
Just my opinion but I think Lindholm is far more valuable
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03-08-2022, 03:22 PM
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#6
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Tkachuk passes better and is nastier. Lindholm skates and checks better.
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03-08-2022, 03:28 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Tkachuk passes better and is nastier. Lindholm skates and checks better.
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Lindholm also snipes better.
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03-08-2022, 03:30 PM
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#8
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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If I had to pick between the two, I’m keeping Lindholm. That said Tkachuk has been great this year.
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03-08-2022, 03:30 PM
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#9
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Chucky's 5-on-5 GF% and xGF% are higher than Lindy's. It's an open and shut case without needing to write a whole article about it.
However, Chucky is about to make $9M next year and more than that in the years following (or above $9M starting next season if he signs a long term extension this summer). Lindy is under contract for under $5M for this and 2 more years. Bang for buck goes to Lindy and it isn't close.
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03-08-2022, 03:32 PM
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First Line Centre
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Lindholm is vastly underrated. The reason the Gaudreau/Lindholm/Tkachuk line is so good is because of Lindholm and his exceptionally two way play that allows Gaudreau/Tkachuk to take risks offensively since they know Lindholm has it covered.
Lindholm is the best all-around and most valuable Flames player by a large margin.
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03-08-2022, 03:32 PM
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#11
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Calgary SW
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Johnny > Tkachuk > Lindholm >>>>>> Mangiapane >>>>>>>> every other forward on the Flames
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03-08-2022, 03:32 PM
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#12
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesgod
Lindholm also snipes better.
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On the forehand. Not between the legs.
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03-08-2022, 03:33 PM
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#13
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
A team full of Lindholms would be the best team in the NHL.
A team full of Tkachuks would be…probably not very effective.
Just my opinion but I think Lindholm is far more valuable
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Both of those teams would lose to 5 Giordanos.
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03-08-2022, 03:33 PM
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#14
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sofa GM
Lindholm is vastly underrated. The reason the Gaudreau/Lindholm/Tkachuk line is so good is because of Lindholm and his exceptionally two way play that allows Gaudreau/Tkachuk to take risks offensively since they know Lindholm has it covered.
Lindholm is the best all-around and most valuable Flames player by a large margin.
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Yes, Lindy’s 2 way play makes a huge difference. It did even back in the Gatorade days.
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03-08-2022, 03:41 PM
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#15
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First Line Centre
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It's a tough comparison to make.
Offensively I don't think Lindholm really holds a candle to Tkachuk. Tkachuk is clearly the superior playdriver in the offensive sense with his IQ, creativity and playmaking being a couple notches above Lindholm's. Tkachuk is no slouch defensively himself but you obviously have to give the large edge to Lindholm in that respect due to positional responsibilities and skating ability.
Both are critically important pieces to the success of this team and compliment one another wonderfully.
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03-08-2022, 03:46 PM
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#17
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Franchise Player
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Don't make us choose. We will not choose.
We got both and are keeping both, along with another member of their line, for a very long time.
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03-08-2022, 03:49 PM
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#18
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
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I'm thankful we have them both. And that kid that wears #13 seems like he can play too.
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03-08-2022, 03:53 PM
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#19
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ullr
Johnny > Tkachuk > Lindholm >>>>>> Mangiapane >>>>>>>> every other forward on the Flames
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Toffoli says hi.
Don't know if I'd put that many >>>>>s between Mangiapane and Toffoli.
I really hope the Flames manage to find a way to lock up all of Johnny, Tkachuk, and Mangiapane. A core of them plus Lindholm and Toffoli is so incredible.
With Markstrom, Tanev, Andersson, and Hanifin all locked and Kylington as an RFA, the team really would be set for a while with a top core. Then you've got guys like Pelletier being added as depth through the next couple of years.
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03-08-2022, 04:03 PM
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#20
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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I don't care who has a digger bick.
I want a cup and if these 2 players can get me there then I'm happy.
Both of these players should be very happy to finally have a coach who knows what the F he's doing , how to do it so that the results matter.
I just really hope we can keep both players and keep them playing right.
I don't think we've seen the best of either player yet .
When games matter they'll either do well or be un noticeable.
Lindholm would be my choice to keep down the road if I had to choose.
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