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12-08-2021, 11:29 PM
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Monahan has sure become a well spoken guy. I like his quotes in the article, and hope he takes his own advice and gets on a roll here at home.
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12-08-2021, 11:34 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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two teams buildings weren't available to start the season and the Flames have still played more road games than anyone lol
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12-08-2021, 11:56 PM
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I'm honestly amazed that they've lost more than they've won at home.
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12-09-2021, 04:22 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I'm honestly amazed that they've lost more than they've won at home.
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Isn't that just so "Flames" though? Have an awesome record either away or at home, yet struggle to find consistency at the other place. It was the Jekyll and Hyde home/away record for years.
It's one of the reasons that I fear the team getting home ice advantage for the playoffs, when clearly they respond much better away than at home. Obviously the team is having a great season thus far and is much different then previous iterations. There is reason for optimism and time to turn things around. But I'd be lying if I said I was confident in this team if they struggle at home all season and get home ice.
I agree with OP; the team needs to make it a priority to make the Saddledome a hateful place to play for other teams.
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12-09-2021, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
Isn't that just so "Flames" though? Have an awesome record either away or at home, yet struggle to find consistency at the other place. It was the Jekyll and Hyde home/away record for years.
It's one of the reasons that I fear the team getting home ice advantage for the playoffs, when clearly they respond much better away than at home. Obviously the team is having a great season thus far and is much different then previous iterations. There is reason for optimism and time to turn things around. But I'd be lying if I said I was confident in this team if they struggle at home all season and get home ice.
I agree with OP; the team needs to make it a priority to make the Saddledome a hateful place to play for other teams.
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They actually have.
Just haven't had the results.
Every single metric has them way better on home ice than they've been on the road collectively.
Crazy really ... xGF% at home 66.1%, road 46.2%.
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12-09-2021, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dino7c
two teams buildings weren't available to start the season and the Flames have still played more road games than anyone lol
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So what, schedules are complicated, every team should have a balanced schedule throughout the season? Is this another of you conspiracies the league is against us?
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12-09-2021, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
So what, schedules are complicated, every team should have a balanced schedule throughout the season? Is this another of you conspiracies the league is against us?
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a. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's just a fact.
b. Just because teams play the same home/away doesn't mean the schedules are the same. Travel, BTB, length of road trip, time between games - the Flames have been squeezed so far. And they will likely make up for it by giving them some abnormally long break that takes the steam out of them.
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12-09-2021, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bingo
They actually have.
Just haven't had the results.
Every single metric has them way better on home ice than they've been on the road collectively.
Crazy really ... xGF% at home 66.1%, road 46.2%.
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That doesn't make up for getting spotted a Mangiapane goal per game on the road, that we don't get at home.
To my eyes though, they usually look sharper and more in control in road games than home games. There are lots of home games, they seem to be fighting the puck a lot, that I don't usually see on the road.
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12-09-2021, 09:01 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
a. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's just a fact.
b. Just because teams play the same home/away doesn't mean the schedules are the same. Travel, BTB, length of road trip, time between games - the Flames have been squeezed so far. And they will likely make up for it by giving them some abnormally long break that takes the steam out of them.
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So even when we're doing well the league is trying to get us, we're a western team we'll travel more, nothing we can do about it, what are the options?
More trips out east for 4 to 5 each or a couple long trips of 6 to 7?
I'm positive some posters just want to complain about how hard we have it regardless, you can always spin it however you want. Exhibit A above
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12-09-2021, 09:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
They actually have.
Just haven't had the results.
Every single metric has them way better on home ice than they've been on the road collectively.
Crazy really ... xGF% at home 66.1%, road 46.2%.
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Well that's great to hear  . Hopefully it translates to a better home record going forward.
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12-09-2021, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
That doesn't make up for getting spotted a Mangiapane goal per game on the road, that we don't get at home.
To my eyes though, they usually look sharper and more in control in road games than home games. There are lots of home games, they seem to be fighting the puck a lot, that I don't usually see on the road.
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More often than not it seems the games aren't as sharp, their opponent is even less sharp, but they're pulled out by the visiting goaltender.
Ducks - Flames way better team in 2nd and 3rd, lose in overtime.
Flyers - dominant win
Predators - dominate whole game and lose to Saros
Stars - Calgary the better team, but kind of an ugly game as you mentioned
Rangers - dominant win
Sharks - worst home game this year? Should have won anyway
Hawks - fought the puck, but pulled it out, better team
Jets - Flames better team, but up and down game, come up short
Pens - Flames better team, tied late, pull it out in overtime. Jarry great.
So I think you're right on the Stars, Sharks and Jets games, but the rest it seems they should have won going away.
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12-09-2021, 09:41 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
So what, schedules are complicated, every team should have a balanced schedule throughout the season? Is this another of you conspiracies the league is against us?
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It's a bad schedule, no team would choose to start like this...a team who played their home opener Nov. 20th has less road games played. Facts are facts. Flames have 14 back2backs...team 3 hours up the road has 8.
Not sure why you feel the need to attack me, Darryl Sutter agrees their schedule hasn't been fair. The fact that they are doing well despite it is great. Hopefully that means good things to come.
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12-09-2021, 09:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
So even when we're doing well the league is trying to get us, we're a western team we'll travel more, nothing we can do about it, what are the options?
More trips out east for 4 to 5 each or a couple long trips of 6 to 7?
I'm positive some posters just want to complain about how hard we have it regardless, you can always spin it however you want. Exhibit A above
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How do you think they will make up for the squeezed schedule and still make them end at the same time, aside giving some abnormally long break (which has happened in the past, BTW).
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12-09-2021, 10:01 AM
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Draft Pick
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Good article. Spot on. As for the schedule, all 32 teams play the same number of games over the same number of days by the end of the season. It is up to the coaching staff to manage rest and have players ready to go regardless if they are in a tough or easy section of the grind. I think we have the right coaches in place to do this. I seem to remember a season in the past where we were great on the road and not so good at home. Maybe during Hartley's run? Seeing the metrics Bingo posted sure makes me feel like it is more of a bump in the road than how the rest of the games will play out. Sure seems like the things flames fans have to complain about these days are much different problems than most would have thought prior to the season starting. Been a while since I've been this interested at this point of the season. Get the win percentage at home up a little and what more could we ask of this team?
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12-09-2021, 10:10 AM
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Franchise Player
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Seem to get the following at home, despite the shot metrics dominance:
-Posts being puck magnets.
-Our goalie isn't better than their goalie.
-High danger shots going high/wide.
-Goals against that are particularly momentum killing in terms of timing and often come after the above scenario or a huge save by the other goalie.
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12-09-2021, 04:57 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
How do you think they will make up for the squeezed schedule and still make them end at the same time, aside giving some abnormally long break (which has happened in the past, BTW).
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Every team is going to be squeezed, league is shutting down in February. every team has scheduling issues we’re just hyper focused on the flames, they just played 4 road games with 3 in California and one in Vegas, hardly a lot of travel, did they even switch hotels in la?
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12-09-2021, 05:10 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
Every team is going to be squeezed, league is shutting down in February. every team has scheduling issues we’re just hyper focused on the flames, they just played 4 road games with 3 in California and one in Vegas, hardly a lot of travel, did they even switch hotels in la?
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lol obviously that isn't the road trip people are talking about
again they have played more road games than a team who's building didn't open until the 20th of November. Two extended EASTERN road trips in the first month with a home following the trip with no days off.
14 back to backs compared to Edmonton's 8 (if you want to use a geography excuse)
Flames schedule has been terrible...they played their 17th road game of the season on December 7th FFS
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12-09-2021, 07:55 PM
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How about fans make some noise? It’s a library in there.
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