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08-29-2021, 04:28 PM
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All I can get
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Obviously, the Flames should start drafting netminders in the Tenth and Eleventh Rounds.
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08-29-2021, 04:30 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Remember when we could have drafted Martin Brodeur but took a different goalie instead?
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08-29-2021, 04:30 PM
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#4
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Franchise Player
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Can't miss in the third.
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08-29-2021, 04:31 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Well the sixth round has produced a couple backup goalies, plus Ortio. The third has Vernon and Anderson.
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08-29-2021, 04:36 PM
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Franchise Player
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Guess it gives more weight to the arguement about not drafting goalies in the first round.
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08-29-2021, 05:34 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
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Kind of points to the issue of there being a development problem. The only goalies that have actually turned out half way decent outside of Vernon have done it in another system like McElhinney, Brossoit, Anderson. I dont think its bad picks considering some of the hype and Junior stats around some of the guys. It really seems that once they get in the Flames system its down hill. If Wolf ends up ruined and Big Save Dave becomes a solid 1b in Nash. I think you have to call a spade a spade.
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08-29-2021, 05:46 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan
Remember when we could have drafted Martin Brodeur but took a different goalie instead?
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The "what if" scenario could be said about every goalie in the league. That one just hurt a little more, because the Flames actually moved up by trading picks with the Devils (giving up an extra 2nd in the process).
Would have been better to keep the extra 2nd and draft Kidd/Potvin or Brodeur/Potvin (depending who the Devils took).
And whichever scout that put Mason McDonald ahead of Thatcher Demo should be shot to the sun.
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08-29-2021, 06:00 PM
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#9
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Psytic
Kind of points to the issue of there being a development problem. The only goalies that have actually turned out half way decent outside of Vernon have done it in another system like McElhinney, Brossoit, Anderson. I dont think its bad picks considering some of the hype and Junior stats around some of the guys. It really seems that once they get in the Flames system its down hill. If Wolf ends up ruined and Big Save Dave becomes a solid 1b in Nash. I think you have to call a spade a spade.
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BSD was a solid 1B here.
Why would him doing the same thing in Nashville suggest anything?
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08-29-2021, 06:01 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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The Flames can occasionally draft goalies. They can occasionally develop goalies. But they can almost never draft and develop a goalie.
It's a problem because nearly all cup winning goalies are drafted and developed by the team that they are playing for and are under the age of 29.
On the bright side, it's relatively easy to get competent goaltending through trade or free agency. Almost never have the Flames actually had terrible goaltending.
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08-29-2021, 06:32 PM
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Franchise Player
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Evan Lindsay (1997) 32nd Overall
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Never heard of this guy. It turns out he re-entered the draft in 99 and ended up getting picked by Montreal (this time in the 4th round).
Leave it to us to draft a goalie in the second round and he’s not even good enough to play in the AHL. Then we do it again 15 years later with Mason MacDonald. Woof.
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08-29-2021, 07:03 PM
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Could Care Less
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Taking McDonald over Demko was just terrible. It was terrible at the time and even more terrible now. I’m still pissed about that
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08-29-2021, 07:30 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heep223
Taking McDonald over Demko was just terrible. It was terrible at the time and even more terrible now. I’m still pissed about that
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Not just Demko. Nedeljkovic, Vanecek, Merzlikins, and Shesterkin were all available.
Some will say "but McDonald was ranked highly and the Flames took him where he was supposed to go." But just looking at all of their pre-draft stats, taking McDonald ahead of them was always going to be a stupid move. That's part of why most of us hated the pick the moment it was made.
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08-29-2021, 08:06 PM
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That 2014 draft gives me nightmares, and not just because of McDonald over Demko.
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08-29-2021, 08:35 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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That is a sad, sad list.
Best Goalie they drafted in the last 30 years they didn't even sign.....
Last edited by Samonadreau; 08-29-2021 at 08:38 PM.
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08-29-2021, 08:45 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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It would be really interesting to see other teams' lists for comparison. How bad do we really do compared to others?
So, Reggie, when you have even more time to spare, perhaps?
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08-29-2021, 08:52 PM
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Self Imposed Retirement
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Calgary
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Curtis McElhinney has had a quite long career as a backup and now 2 time cup winner. That's not bad for 176th overall pick for a goalie.
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08-29-2021, 09:08 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Singapore
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You wonder if the 2000 draft wasn't held in Calgary, would the Flames not have selected Krahn from the Hitmen? I recall this was right around the time the Flames brought back Vernon. At a time when the threat of relocation was real seemed like these were PR moves as much as anything.
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08-29-2021, 09:08 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan
Remember when we could have drafted Martin Brodeur but took a different goalie instead?
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To be fair, The Hockey News had Trevor Kidd being picked in the top five of the 1990 draft. I think on the cover, they referred to Kidd as a”superstar” goalie.
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08-29-2021, 09:09 PM
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All I can get
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Remember all the Jerome Butler hype?
Me neither.
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