08-05-2021, 11:02 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Devils sign Tatar (2 yrs, $4.5 mil AAV)
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08-05-2021, 11:05 AM
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#2
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First Line Centre
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The NHL is a funny place. You can go from being a consistent healthy scratch in the playoffs to making 9M dollars in the span of just a couple months.
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08-05-2021, 11:07 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
The NHL is a funny place. You can go from being a consistent healthy scratch in the playoffs to making 9M dollars in the span of just a couple months.
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One team's trash is another team's treasure.
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08-05-2021, 11:09 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
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Wow. Would have liked Flames to sign him on a one year deal (if Eichel deal didn’t happen), but not at 4.5.
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08-05-2021, 11:18 AM
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Franchise Player
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He's been a 46pt+ pace player for 6/7 last seasons. AAV and term seem fair.
One of the last guys who might still have some of that 'magic' from developing in the DET system when it was still good.
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08-05-2021, 11:26 AM
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Closet Jedi
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
He's been a 46pt+ pace player for 6/7 last seasons. AAV and term seem fair.
One of the last guys who might still have some of that 'magic' from developing in the DET system when it was still good.
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Even so, he was scratched in the playoffs twice.
Vegas paid a 1st 2nd and 3rd, only to scratch him.
Montreal isn't teeming with depth, and was scratched there, too.
That has to be concerning.
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08-05-2021, 11:30 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Philly06Cup
Even so, he was scratched in the playoffs twice.
Vegas paid a 1st 2nd and 3rd, only to scratch him.
Montreal isn't teeming with depth, and was scratched there, too.
That has to be concerning.
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I think at this point Tatar can be seen as a player that help get you to the playoffs. He may not be a playoff performer but there is value in a guy that can produce in the regular season and fits well on a powerplay.
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08-05-2021, 11:41 AM
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Reminds me of Huselius. Can depend on him to consistently produce points for you, but lacks the same level on the defensive side of his game.
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08-05-2021, 11:58 AM
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Franchise Player
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08-05-2021, 01:16 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Is Joe Fresh affiliated with Dom Luszczyszyn? They always seem to mirror each other.
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Dom Luszczyszyn, NHL analytics writer: In Montreal, Tatar was rarely given the minutes requisite of his ability. In a bigger role with the Devils, it wouldn’t be a shock to see him flirt with 60 points.
In each of the last three seasons, he’s been incredibly productive at five-on-five, averaging 2.47 points-per-60 in that time frame. That’s tied with Elias Pettersson for 18th in the league. On top of that, he drives play extremely well and is a great asset off the rush.
Tatar looks like he would be a great fit with either Hughes or Nico Hischier and is projected to make New Jersey two wins better. That brings them into the playoff conversation.
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08-05-2021, 01:23 PM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Such a weird player.
He looks borderline elite during the season as those advanced stats show, but has been healthy scratched in the playoffs by both Vegas and Montreal in Cup Finals runs.
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08-05-2021, 01:27 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Such a weird player.
He looks borderline elite during the season as those advanced stats show, but has been healthy scratched in the playoffs by both Vegas and Montreal in Cup Finals runs.
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A podcast I listened to last week described him as a guy that gets you there but doesn't get you through.
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08-05-2021, 01:27 PM
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Airdrie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Such a weird player.
He looks borderline elite during the season as those advanced stats show, but has been healthy scratched in the playoffs by both Vegas and Montreal in Cup Finals runs.
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On 31 Thoughts, they said he is a guy to get you to the playoff, but has never done well in the playoff.
You need to have him and Bennett at the same time only trade them out at the trade deadline.
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08-05-2021, 01:27 PM
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Franchise Player
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Prime example of a player who divides the Analytics Wonks and the Hockey Men. Analytics guys don’t understand why he would ever be scratched, and the hockey guys see liabilities that aren’t captured by analytics.
Similar to the divided opinions over Hamilton. Now they’re both core players on the same team. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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08-05-2021, 02:17 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
A podcast I listened to last week described him as a guy that gets you there but doesn't get you through.
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Would have been a good fit alongside Monahan then....except I think only one of the two even gets you there.
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08-05-2021, 02:20 PM
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Is Joe Fresh affiliated with Dom Luszczyszyn? They always seem to mirror each other.
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If you give two data analysts the same research question, they should arrive at similar conclusions.
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08-05-2021, 02:36 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Dead Rear, AB
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Reminds me of Huselius. Can depend on him to consistently produce points for you, but lacks the same level on the defensive side of his game.
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Huselius was anything but consistent though.
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08-05-2021, 03:21 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Prime example of a player who divides the Analytics Wonks and the Hockey Men. Analytics guys don’t understand why he would ever be scratched, and the hockey guys see liabilities that aren’t captured by analytics.
Similar to the divided opinions over Hamilton. Now they’re both core players on the same team. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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We have a couple of examples/ case studies coming up:
Will analytical losers Ristolainen , Zadorov and Schmidt sink the Flyers and Flames and Jets?
Will Buffalo Chicago and Vancouver be better without them?
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08-05-2021, 04:34 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
One team's trash is another team's treasure.
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So in Neal's case... one team's trash is another team's trash.
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08-05-2021, 10:28 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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If the kids step up, this could be a good signing for the Devils.
Low risk signing that might payoff huge. Tatar could get them to the playoffs over the duration of the contract.
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