[Game Takes] Flames 4 Oilers 3

[Bingo]

Game Takes: Flames 4 Oilers 3

- Ritchie answers the call with a huge TKO afteri Khaira's hit on Kylington
- McDavid -1 as Sutter's system silences the Oilers big guns
- Top line pops with goals by Dube and Lindholm

[Boblobla]

I don't know how it reflects in the fancy stats but I love seeing Richie and Lucic dump the puck into the corner and go hard on the body to recover the puck. Nice to see the big boys with some confidence to do that.

[Enoch Root]

Great write up as always.

Weird that Tanev would have great shot splits but Hanifin be under water

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Game Takes: Flames 4 Oilers 3



- Ritchie answers the call with a huge TKO afteri Khaira's hit on Kylington

- McDavid -1 as Sutter's system silences the Oilers big guns

- Top line pops with goals by Dube and Lindholm

Great write up, always enjoy reading these - small issue; shouldn't it be a KO not a TKO since Khaira was unconscious?

[icarus]

Flames have two nukes in Lucic and Ritchie and playing under Sutter...

Simon and Oliwa 2.0???

[MacFlame]

I'm not all that familiar with these new stats and I'm sure this is a newb question, but I can't seem to find an easy explanation of this stat on the internet, without having to divulge into a novel.

xGF% is expected goals for, correct? Ok, so, higher the number the better. But what's with the minutes? Usually stats are based on a standard time (like fore example, per 60 minutes or something)....can someone explain this part to me?


Tkachuk – Lindholm – Dube
44% xGF in 159 minutes
Gaudreau – Monahan – Ritchie
35% xGF in 29 minutes
Lucic – Backlund – Mangiapane
64% xGF in 99 minutes
Bennett – Ryan – Leivo
91% xGF in 21 minutes

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by MacFlame

I'm not all that familiar with these new stats and I'm sure this is a newb question, but I can't seem to find an easy explanation of this stat on the internet, without having to divulge into a novel.

xGF% is expected goals for, correct? Ok, so, higher the number the better. But what's with the minutes? Usually stats are based on a standard time (like fore example, per 60 minutes or something)....can someone explain this part to me?


Tkachuk – Lindholm – Dube
44% xGF in 159 minutes
Gaudreau – Monahan – Ritchie
35% xGF in 29 minutes
Lucic – Backlund – Mangiapane
64% xGF in 99 minutes
Bennett – Ryan – Leivo
91% xGF in 21 minutes

I think it means that those particular combos have been together for that amount of time. That way you can judge whether it is a long term trend or based on very few data points.

[MacFlame]

Originally Posted by edslunch

I think it means that those particular combos have been together for that amount of time. That way you can judge whether it is a long term trend or based on very few data points.

Thanks. Much appreciated.

[Bingo]

Wow ... Hanifin played just over 16 minutes against McDavid last night and played him to a McDavid xGF% of 34%.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wow ... Hanifin played just over 16 minutes against McDavid last night and played him to a McDavid xGF% of 34%.

That's a hell of a stat. If we can get a player to limit McDavid (I don't think you can ever fully contain the guy) that sets up the team pretty well for Oilers matchups.

Kylington is another guy you would naturally think could hang with McDavid. Maybe just not enough talent defensively to use that assignment.

[chedder]

So crickets from nhl player safety on Khaira hit? Do they think because he 'answered the bell' he doesn't deserve a suspension?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wow ... Hanifin played just over 16 minutes against McDavid last night and played him to a McDavid xGF% of 34%.

There hasnt been a better skater on the team this year.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by MacFlame

I'm not all that familiar with these new stats and I'm sure this is a newb question, but I can't seem to find an easy explanation of this stat on the internet, without having to divulge into a novel.

xGF% is expected goals for, correct? Ok, so, higher the number the better. But what's with the minutes? Usually stats are based on a standard time (like fore example, per 60 minutes or something)....can someone explain this part to me?


Tkachuk – Lindholm – Dube
44% xGF in 159 minutes
Gaudreau – Monahan – Ritchie
35% xGF in 29 minutes
Lucic – Backlund – Mangiapane
64% xGF in 99 minutes
Bennett – Ryan – Leivo
91% xGF in 21 minutes

You don't need to show stats to know that the Lucic/Backlund/Mange line is the Flames best line even before Sutter took over. That line is insane! Love it!

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wow ... Hanifin played just over 16 minutes against McDavid last night and played him to a McDavid xGF% of 34%.

Good write up, as always

A couple of things. I too was surprised about the Smith high stick and play continuing

Hanifin had good stats against McDavid for sure. Definitely the idea that it’s tougher for the opposing offensive stars to score when they are in their own zone was on Sutter’s mind

You mentioned early in the Game Takes about the Flames’ time with the puck. I think there are a few things that contributed to that. One was takeaways. Overall the takeaway count was 12-6 in favour of the Flames and I recall noting more than once some extra back pressure and pockets being picked in the neutral zone. Backlund led the team with 4 takeaways (while having no giveaways, himself)

Those plays where the Oilers were a bit nonchalant, got stripped of the puck and the Flames quickly put it in their zone? *chef’s kiss*

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Good write up, as always

A couple of things. I too was surprised about the Smith high stick and play continuing

I'm pretty sure I noticed this going back to last year that this doesn't get called. Don't recall if it was Smith that was doing it and getting away with it but I wouldn't be surprised.

[MrMike]

That’s unique, I noticed the high stick from Smith as well and it’s the first time I’ve ever thought about it.

[GioforPM]

I bet the refs aren’t even looking for it. But next time, Sutter should casually mention it pre-game.

[Bingo]

You wouldn't think a goalie would have an exemption from a high stick.

Guessing it was never thought of. Doubt Gump Worsely came out and knocked pucks down above his head on the glass.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Bingo

You wouldn't think a goalie would have an exemption from a high stick.

Guessing it was never thought of. Doubt Gump Worsely came out and knocked pucks down above his head on the glass.

I just checked rule 80. There is certainly no exemption for goalies (unless somewhere else in the rule book goalie sticks are not defined to be sticks)

Rule 80 – High-sticking the Puck
80.1 High-sticking the Puck – For infractions involving high-sticks, refer to
Rule 60 – High-sticking.
Batting the puck above the normal height of the shoulders with a stick is prohibited. When a puck is struck with a high stick and subsequently comes into the possession and control of a player from the offending team (including the player who made contact with the puck), either directly or deflected off any player or official, there shall be a whistle.
When a puck has been contacted by a high stick, the play shall be permitted to continue, provided that:
(i) the puck has been batted to an opponent (when a player bats the puck to an opponent, the Referee shall give the “washout” signal immediately. Otherwise, he will stop the play).
(ii) a player of the defending side shall bat the puck into his own goal in which case the goal shall be allowed.
Cradling the puck on the blade of the stick (like lacrosse) above the normal height of the shoulders shall be prohibited and a stoppage of play shall result. If this is done by a player on a penalty shot or shootout attempt, the shot shall be stopped immediately and considered complete.