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Old 10-24-2019, 11:49 PM   #1
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Flames 6 Panthers 5 (SO)

- Both goalies give up 5 on 20 something shots
- Tkachuk scores two goals
- Third line ties it up (Bennett)
- Flames better in the dot
- Calgary dominates the shoot out
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Old 10-25-2019, 12:56 AM   #2
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Good write up.

Appreciate the shot clock mention.

I thought perhaps an alternative could be only one backwards puck movement outside of the opponent’s blue line, be it a pass or skating the puck back.
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Weirdest low shot high scoring game I've ever seen. Looking at save% and GAA you'd think the goalies had a bad game. But that's just not the case, especially for Bob. Fir sure each goalie would like one or two back, but they each also made more than the usual amount of great saves.
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Old 10-25-2019, 07:46 AM   #4
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Instead of a shot clock I’d like to see them start with an over and back rule similar to basket ball, using the red line. Much harder to play keep away with only half the ice.
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How about instead of fundamentally changing the game of hockey with shot clocks or backwards pass bans, we go the old fashioned route?

Win-loss-tie in the regular season. No stupid 3 on 3 pond hockey, no gimmicky ass shootout.

Make a win worth three points and watch teams pour it on in the third period instead of playing safe as is the case now.
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Instead of a shot clock I’d like to see them start with an over and back rule similar to basket ball, using the red line. Much harder to play keep away with only half the ice.
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Once you're over the red line, you can't go back to the defensive side of the line with the puck. In basketball, it's a loss of possession. I guess here it would be a defensive zone faceoff. Obviously if the other team gains possession, or shoots it out, then you start again.

I just think its hard to play keep away if you're restricted to half the ice. And then once you gain the blue line, you could still exit the zone and everyone tags up, but then you have a really small space to operate in (between the blue and the red).

The one great thing about 3 on 3 is the lack of whistles. You want to keep that. And to me, if you have possession in the offensive zone, its still exciting even without a shot, as there is pressure and the anticipation while you look for an optimal shot.

This change might not do anything, but it's also relatively minor IMO and maybe worth a shot.
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Once you're over the red line, you can't go back to the defensive side of the line with the puck. In basketball, it's a loss of possession. I guess here it would be a defensive zone faceoff. Obviously if the other team gains possession, or shoots it out, then you start again.

I just think its hard to play keep away if you're restricted to half the ice. And then once you gain the blue line, you could still exit the zone and everyone tags up, but then you have a really small space to operate in (between the blue and the red).

The one great thing about 3 on 3 is the lack of whistles. You want to keep that. And to me, if you have possession in the offensive zone, its still exciting even without a shot, as there is pressure and the anticipation while you look for an optimal shot.

This change might not do anything, but it's also relatively minor IMO and maybe worth a shot.
I like this idea, but would worry about the number of stoppages this might create. It’s the same with a shot clock. How does the League enforce offensive zone play while still maintaining the flow of the game?


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Man that win pumped me up. Only thing that ruined it was the Oiler win
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Burke said the play wouldn't be stopped on his shot clock, the team would just be directed to give up possession (like B-Ball I guess). I suppose the puck would just be shot into the corner and the players would retreat, sorta like dumping for a line change.
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You may see a couple more whistles, but I would mandate it that the offending team cannot change players either (like icing) so you could get fresh guys out with a faceoff in the offensive zone and i suspect you would see games end earlier more often with this rule.

The ragging the puck stuff has stifled what was originally an absolutely great display of skill and creativity.

Coaches ALWAYS find a way to defend and suck the life out of innovation.
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Instead of a shot clock I’d like to see them start with an over and back rule similar to basket ball, using the red line. Much harder to play keep away with only half the ice.
I also thought of that during the Burke segment, but substituted the offensive blueline. It's widely stated that more chances are generated by turnovers at the blueline than any other region of the ice.
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I also thought of that during the Burke segment, but substituted the offensive blueline. It's widely stated that more chances are generated by turnovers at the blueline than any other region of the ice.
I like both of those ideas more than the idea of a shot clock. I think that would keep play moving and not allow the players play the possession game that 3 on 3 has turned into.

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I also thought of that during the Burke segment, but substituted the offensive blueline. It's widely stated that more chances are generated by turnovers at the blueline than any other region of the ice.
I like that too. You have to experiment with it, I believe. The beauty of 3 on 3 is the space and allows the players to be creative, while also penalizing a single mistake by a defender. The risk of course is that as you restrict the space they operate in, you lose the appeal of 3 on 3.

THe one challenge of using the blueline is you give them the rest of the ice to play keep away with, if that is their choice. Like basketball you could have a timeclock to advance past the blueline I suppose.

I don't really like Burke's idea of just handing off possession, that seems like too fundamental a change.

I also don't hate the current system, would just rather they play until someone scores. Screw the shootout.
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