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Old 10-05-2019, 08:03 PM   #1
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After attending the Flames vs Avs game, I found out that there is a dispute between the Avs owner Cronke and the TV networks. You cannot watch an Avs game on TV in Colorado. Everything is blacked out. I tried to describe my anger to my buddies here if that were to happen in Calgary and I was at a loss for words.

How would things go if that was the issue here?
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Old 10-05-2019, 08:04 PM   #2
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Blackhawks owner used to do that too.
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The stamps were like that for a long time if it wasn't a sellout I believe.
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Old 10-05-2019, 08:58 PM   #4
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Bit of an oversimplification I think. It has happened to several regional sports networks as they negotiate with the carriers over rights fees. It’s the old debate. Why should my cable bill be higher for a sports channel I never want to watch.
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The issue with Altitude Sports here is that they want higher fees from the providers, but the actual subscription/ interest in the channel is low.

They still have the broadcast crew working, but nobody is, or can, watch.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:07 AM   #6
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:11 AM   #7
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After attending the Flames vs Avs game, I found out that there is a dispute between the Avs owner Cronke and the TV networks. You cannot watch an Avs game on TV in Colorado. Everything is blacked out. I tried to describe my anger to my buddies here if that were to happen in Calgary and I was at a loss for words.

How would things go if that was the issue here?
Just tell them to imagine what would happen if Broncos games were blacked out in Colorado. It would pretty much be like that.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:13 AM   #8
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The then-IHL Chicago Wolves in nearby Rosemont used to outdraw the Blackhawks at one point.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:15 AM   #9
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This thread is....wow.

I'd say look at Blackhawks, or heck, even Flames a few years ago with 10-20% home games as PPV.

Shatty, but alas, we're talking an entertainment product and if the distributing party wants to be dink heads about it (PPV or blackouts) that is their prerogative, just vote with your wallet.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:18 AM   #10
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In today's marketplace making your product accessible to people with interests or even budding interests is critical.

In what world would a team hope to survive without children falling in love with the sport that are denied access.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:22 AM   #11
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The then-IHL Chicago Wolves in nearby Rosemont used to outdraw the Blackhawks at one point.
Would need evidence of that. Highly doubtful!
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:24 AM   #12
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Are there still local TV broadcasters for NHL teams? Most are regional sports networks now as far as I know.
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Old 10-06-2019, 12:36 AM   #13
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Would need evidence of that. Highly doubtful!
Yeah, maybe that was urban myth. The Wolves did thrive at the Hawk's nadir though.
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Are there still local TV broadcasters for NHL teams? Most are regional sports networks now as far as I know.
Does WGN in Chicago still own some broadcast rights? I think that there are some local stations in Philly/Pittsburgh/Boston with rights. Maybe even New Jersey?
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:47 AM   #15
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A lot of people in my company are based in Denver - this issue is affecting the Nuggets too, and they aren't too happy with it.
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A lot of people in my company are based in Denver - this issue is affecting the Nuggets too, and they aren't too happy with it.
Thanks for that nugget of info.

Do the NHL and NBA teams in Denver share the same owner?
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:56 AM   #17
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Kronke is terrible, that's all you need to know.
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I live in Omaha Nebraska and can not watch the Flames play the Avs because we have black outs on center ice. Yet the Altitude channel is not on my service. So blacked out and can’t do anything about it. UnFortunately the playoffs were not on regional broadcasts so I didn’t miss those games.
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Old 10-07-2019, 10:30 AM   #19
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I would stream the game illegally. If they can't make it easier for me to watch legally and pay them to do it, then they forced my hand.
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IMO blacking out games is dinosaur thinking. People want accessibility and there are so many forms of accessible entertainment, if the Avs are not accessible, people will just watch Netflix or play a video game instead
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