[News] Treliving: This is deepest group since I’ve been here

[AC]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...oup-since-ive/

“He’s (Peters) certainly a guy, when we made the change, that was at the top of my list … I feel strongly that he’s the right guy for this group right now,” Treliving said. “He pushes. He’s a demanding guy, but in a way that he’s an encouraging and relationship-driven coach with players.”

“A few things we really felt strongly about (changing) … our depth, organizationally, but specifically at the forward position. I take responsibility that we didn’t necessarily give our coaches as many tools as they probably should have had last year in terms of moving people around.

“We felt we’ve increased the forward depth of our group, and then looking at specific areas, and that’s on the right side for people that can play in scoring roles.”

“One thing that was painfully evident last year is we relied on too many. If two or three guys didn’t score last year, we were going to have a tough time to win.”

With increased forward depth and new young additions in Noah Hanifin and Elias Lindholm signed long term, Treliving feels his club is ready for a bounce back campaign. The Flames’ architect even declared this year’s crop of talent entering training camp “is the deepest group that’s been here since I’ve been here.”

[Chingas]

I agree.

[Keselke]

Is there anymore Hurricanes players/staff we can grab before the season starts?

[Dion]

[dammage79]

Deepest forward group by my reckoning since the 89 team era. Iggy never had this much depth.

[SeanCharles]

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Neal
Bennett-Jankowski-Frolik
_______-Ryan-Czarnik
Lazar/Hathaway
Mangiapane-Dube-Foo
Klimchuk-Quine-Rychel
Ehliz

Gio-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Kulak-Stone
Kylington-Andersson
Valimaki-Prout
Hogstrom

Smith
Rittich
Gillies
Parsons

Yea it's intriguing to see how many different names can suit up for us this season. Definately some better options!

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Neal
Bennett-Jankowski-Frolik
_______-Ryan-Czarnik
Lazar/Hathaway
Mangiapane-Dube-Foo
Klimchuk-Quine-Rychel
Ehliz

Gio-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Kulak-Stone
Kylington-Andersson
Valimaki-Prout
Hogstrom

Smith
Rittich
Gillies
Parsons

Yea it's intriguing to see how many different names can suit up for us this season. Definately some better options!

That didn't work as our third line last year so I dont know why people insist on believing it will work this year. We acquired two centers in the off season so that janko-Bennett didn't have to be a pairing.

[goflamesgo18]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

That didn't work as our third line last year so I dont know why people insist on believing it will work this year. We acquired two centers in the off season so that janko-Bennett didn't have to be a pairing.

Janko scored 17 as a rookie 3rd liner. Both players are very young and improvig.

With a better linemate on the right side than Hathaway, I'm sure they will be better.

No reason to not give them another shot together

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

That didn't work as our third line last year so I dont know why people insist on believing it will work this year. We acquired two centers in the off season so that janko-Bennett didn't have to be a pairing.

The problem wasn't Jankowski or Bennett. The problem with the plow horse on the other wing. You don't throw a couple young guys under the bus because of less than a season, especially when the depth on the team was a problem. Also, the players acquired are right shooters, and they were obviously picked up with specific slots in mind. I wouldn't be surprised to see them deployed on the right side, and then take draws on their strong side when needed.


I agree with Treliving. On paper this is the most depth since the early 90s. This is a team to be excited about. Let's just hope his coaching selection is the right one to bring this crew together and become a dominant team. Drop the puck!

[bubbsy]

It's definitely the deepest since the Sutter teams. That 2008 team was stacked. Had Phaneuf and regehr not get injured, i think they do a lot more damage.

[CanucksWorstNightmare]

I think these lines would be a blast to watch,putting Czarnik on the 3rd line could turn it into a scoring machine.Cant wait for the season to start!!!

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Neal
Bennett-Jankowski-Czarnik
Mangiapane -Ryan- Frolik
Lazar/Hathaway

[Resolute 14]

I should hope that this is the deepest team we've had since Treliving's been here, given we're exiting the rebuild phase. It's time to prove it.

[Huntingwhale]

Way to early to say this is the deepest group since the 90s, when they haven't even played a game. It all looks good on paper. But it's only truly 'deep' if they actually live up to expectations.

But still, no one can deny the GM has done his job this summer. He's given the coach's the tools they need to implement a winning system and there is no reason they can't contend for the divsion. Safe to say the excuses of missing a player here or there, not deep enough at position x, or not having enough star talent are no longer applicable excuses. Time for the players to sack up and finally prove they are a good team.

It's been 12 long years since the last truly elite season this franchise has had. Way too long in all our books. Let's finally start opening that contending window Flames' fans have been waiting for since Iggy left

[shutout]

Team needs to push the offense every shift by every line.
Each line needs to have some defensive conscious.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Neal
Bennett - Ryan - Czarnik
Frolik - Jankowski - Foo
Klimchuk Rychel

Lindholm, Backlund, Ryan, and Frolik can make sure the line is playing a smart 200" game. Allows for favourable matchups for younger players, and some speed and offensive from at least two players on each line.

Bennett does not prove he can push the play offensively and stay out of the box from being stupid you move him and slot in Mangiapane on the third line left side.

[Erick Estrada]

Boy he's really has a lot of belief in Peters. I know every GM is going to say he's confident in his hire but Peters must have rubbed off on him at the worlds as he was pretty aggressive in bringing him in. I really hope he's right as this organization hasn't had many really good head coaches over the years.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by shutout

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Neal
Bennett - Ryan - Czarnik
Frolik - Jankowski - Foo
Klimchuk Rychel

That’s interesting. I think I like it.



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[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by shutout

Team needs to push the offense every shift by every line.
Each line needs to have some defensive conscious.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Neal
Bennett - Ryan - Czarnik
Frolik - Jankowski - Foo
Klimchuk Rychel

Lindholm, Backlund, Ryan, and Frolik can make sure the line is playing a smart 200" game. Allows for favourable matchups for younger players, and some speed and offensive from at least two players on each line.

Bennett does not prove he can push the play offensively and stay out of the box from being stupid you move him and slot in Mangiapane on the third line left side.

Interesting lineup, but I have some questions.


What gives you the idea that Derek Ryan is a defensively responsible player? I would suggest the numbers indicate otherwise. He didn't kill penalties and he was a 60% offensive zone start player. That third line actually scares the bejezus out of me because there is no one on it that has any proven defensive awareness. That could be an "outscoring" black hole. Also, I'd like to see Ryan earn this role with his new team. I'd be concerned about this line getting physically dominated, with a small center and an even smaller winger.


That leads to the winger on that line. Why does Austin Czarnik get penciled in on the third line? The guy didn't score a goal last year in the NHL and only has five under his belt for 59 games. He's small and I would think is in the same competition pool as Spencer Foo. I see no reason for him to be considered for a roster spot until he proves he can beat out the competition. What is it about Czarnik that makes you think he should play ahead of guys who have proven they are NHL players?


I'd be more comfortable with your third line being the fourth line and giving them limited ice time where they might be more successful - like giving them 60% offensive zone starts. Then use those players in specialty roles and fill-in for injury. Maybe it's just me, but I think two of our new players have a lot to prove to beat out existing players in our lineup and in our system.

[heep223]

I have a feeling the bottom six is going to be a total blender all season, with guys rotating in and out based on who’s hot and who’s clicking.

Which I like, keeps guys hungry and fresh.

Top six is set and looks great. Only concern I have is that the top line is pillowy soft with Lindholm on the right. Would much prefer Neal in that spot.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I should hope that this is the deepest team we've had since Treliving's been here, given we're exiting the rebuild phase. It's time to prove it.

Pretty much where I'm at. No sort of puff piece chatter around the team, or fancy stat showing that the result isn't what the result should have been is going to do it for me this year. No moral victories.

Put up or shut up. It's time for results.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by New Era

That leads to the winger on that line. Why does Austin Czarnik get penciled in on the third line? The guy didn't score a goal last year in the NHL and only has five under his belt for 59 games. He's small and I would think is in the same competition pool as Spencer Foo. I see no reason for him to be considered for a roster spot until he proves he can beat out the competition. What is it about Czarnik that makes you think he should play ahead of guys who have proven they are NHL players?

I tend to agree with all of what you posted here, but it bears mentioning that Czarnik signed a two-year one-way deal as a UFA. Rightly or wrongly I think that signals most emphatically that he is on the NHL roster.




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