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Old 09-13-2018, 10:09 AM   #1
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Icon27 Stars sign Seguin to contract extension. (8yrs, $9.85mil AAV)

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Old 09-13-2018, 10:28 AM   #2
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for those that want Hall, that will set the bar for his minimum salary.
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:31 AM   #3
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Two sides to that - if I'm the Stars, I'm saying, look, Benn gets paid this amount, you're not more important to our team than Benn, you're getting the same contract.

Seguin can say, well, that may be true, but I know I can get more elsewhere, so give me that "more" or I'll go elsewhere.

I'd guess Seguin wins that argument and this comes in somewhere in the 10-10.5 area.
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Two sides to that - if I'm the Stars, I'm saying, look, Benn gets paid this amount, you're not more important to our team than Benn, you're getting the same contract.

Seguin can say, well, that may be true, but I know I can get more elsewhere, so give me that "more" or I'll go elsewhere.

I'd guess Seguin wins that argument and this comes in somewhere in the 10-10.5 area.
That's correct.

Benn signed his extension 2 years ago, so of course Seguin's AAV would likely be higher.

For the same reason, if Tre remains fast on no one getting more than Gio, for example, that argument is already irrelevant due to raises of the cap.
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For the same reason, if Tre remains fast on no one getting more than Gio, for example, that argument is already irrelevant due to raises of the cap.
It's fair to a point, though. An internal cap based on your best players can - at least for as long as you can stretch it out - reasonably maintain salaries at below market value on the view that if Superstar is taking less, you can too. I don't really fault players for balking at that but I don't fault management for trying it, either. There's definitely some brand equity in it for the player.
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It's fair to a point, though. An internal cap based on your best players can - at least for as long as you can stretch it out - reasonably maintain salaries at below market value on the view that if Superstar is taking less, you can too. I don't really fault players for balking at that but I don't fault management for trying it, either. There's definitely some brand equity in it for the player.
Gio may not have actually taken less money at that time, when the cap was quite a bit smaller and his age for that contract was reasonably high.

Calgary really hasn't had anyone who could reasonable test that internal cap, since they haven't had a really good player who was going into his UFA years.

If either Johnny or Monny had been UFA's instead of RFA's, they would have blown through that internal cap.

And I agree, I certainly don't fault management in trying anything to keep the cap numbers down.
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I am happy the stupid sharks didn't trade for him. Sharks suck!
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$500000 clear a month. God that must be ridiculous.
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I thought the Stars might be in cap hell soon.. then I looked at Klingberg and WOW, they have him on such a great deal.
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That is the greatest contract announcement tweet ever from the Stars.

Also gives a good proxy of what Gaudreau would be worth on the open market today.

Over the last 3 seasons:

Gaudreau : G- 71 P - 223
Seguin: G - 99 P - 223

They sit tied for 13th in league scoring over that time (and Gaudreau doesn't have Benn - ranked 6th - to ride shotgun with).

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Makes the $9M+ club and top 10 for cap hits.

1 Connor McDavid $12,500,000
2 Drew Doughty $11,000,000
3 John Tavares $11,000,000
4 Carey Price $10,500,000
5 Patrick Kane $10,500,000
6 Jonathan Toews $10,500,000
7 Jack Eichel $10,000,000
8 Anze Kopitar $10,000,000
9 Tyler Seguin# $9,850,000
10 Alex Ovechkin $9,538,462
11 Nikita Kucherov $9,500,000
12 Jamie Benn $9,500,000
13 Evgeni Malkin $9,500,000
14 P.K. Subban $9,000,000
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Makes the $9M+ club and top 10 for cap hits.

1 Connor McDavid $12,500,000
2 Drew Doughty $11,000,000
3 John Tavares $11,000,000
4 Carey Price $10,500,000
5 Patrick Kane $10,500,000
6 Jonathan Toews $10,500,000
7 Jack Eichel $10,000,000
8 Anze Kopitar $10,000,000
9 Tyler Seguin# $9,850,000
10 Alex Ovechkin $9,538,462
11 Nikita Kucherov $9,500,000
12 Jamie Benn $9,500,000
13 Evgeni Malkin $9,500,000
14 P.K. Subban $9,000,000
I really like Jack Eichel and think he's going to be great...but hell did Buffalo overpay for that guy coming off his ELC. (Not that it's going to be a bad contract but if they could have at lease squeezed him a little bit to around $8M that would have been a lot better).

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Of those top 14 contracts, I think I'll take this one ahead of pretty much all of them other than McDavid's, and maybe Malkin and Subban. Well done Jim Nill.
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:36 AM   #17
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I really like this deal for Dallas. I think he could have gotten over $10mil easily.
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:44 AM   #18
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Makes the $9M+ club and top 10 for cap hits.

1 Connor McDavid $12,500,000
2 Drew Doughty $11,000,000
3 John Tavares $11,000,000
4 Carey Price $10,500,000
5 Patrick Kane $10,500,000
6 Jonathan Toews $10,500,000
7 Jack Eichel $10,000,000
8 Anze Kopitar $10,000,000
9 Tyler Seguin# $9,850,000
10 Alex Ovechkin $9,538,462
11 Nikita Kucherov $9,500,000
12 Jamie Benn $9,500,000
13 Evgeni Malkin $9,500,000
14 P.K. Subban $9,000,000
It's hilarious that Crosby is not on that list.
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That announcement video is freaking fantastic.
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That announcement video is freaking fantastic.
They always do cool stuff like this in Dallas. I'll never forget when they turned a fight into an internet meme while it was going on.

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