NHLPA Player Poll 2017/2018

[colbym72]

https://www.nhlpa.com/player-poll/2017-18

[colbym72]

Only Flames mention is 6% said they have the best ice.

[Rubicant]

Calgary got votes for the best ice? Wow.

[TheScorpion]

Lol what? BEST ice?

[colbym72]

I find the part about the coaching interesting......for reasons

[dino7c]

So CP complaints about the ice are overblown? No way

[Toonage]

Someone thought Steve Ott would make a good coach? Weird.

[Huntingwhale]

I'm a little surprised at the Calgary ice being ranked up there considering how much CP seems to complain about it. Then again, none of us have ever likely played on a hockey game on it, so I'll take the players' word for it.

I'm surprised that 77% approve of the 3 points system. While it likely frustrates a lot of fans, I can understand the players liking it. It does give parity in the league, and it's much funner to play on a team in playoff race then it is to play for a team out of it.

I like seeing these player polls, as it often contradicts what fans think.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

I'm surprised that 77% approve of the 3 points system. While it likely frustrates a lot of fans, I can understand the players liking it. It does give parity in the league, and it's much funner to play on a team in playoff race then it is to play for a team out of it.

I like seeing these player polls, as it often contradicts what fans think.

this is the one that also stood out to me.

If the vast majority of players are happy with the current point system, there is no reason to change.

[burnitdown]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

this is the one that also stood out to me.

If the vast majority of players are happy with the current point system, there is no reason to change.

Granted, they put a note under the responses saying that many players would actually like a 3 point system...so it's possible lots of players said they were happy with the current setup but might still think it can be improved.

[slybomb]

This poll highlights how much Crosby is respected amongst his peers. The guy is a humble winning machine.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

If the vast majority of players are happy with the current point system, there is no reason to change.

Yes there is. It's objectively awful. The opinions of hockey players cannot change that. I don't know what their justification for that view is, but if it's what Huntingwhale said (being "in a playoff race") then they're just deluding themselves. It does not encourage playoff races, it makes it nearly impossible to catch up.

It also encourages defensive play such that the better strategy is to try not to get scored on rather than to score goals... in a league that can't figure out how to increase excitement and scoring. A team that wins 0 games in regulation but goes to overtime 90% of the time will have a better record than a team that wins 60% of its games in regulation but only gets to overtime 10% of the time.

So either they're stupid, delusional, or most likely, they just don't think that much about it and so answered the poll question with "it's fine I guess".

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by colbym72

I find the part about the coaching interesting......for reasons

Yep. Especially if he becomes available in the offseason.

[bc-chris]

heh... all i could think of while going thru that was....

4 more banners the oilers could hang

[J79]

Which player would you select to start a franchise?

48,6%
CONNOR MCDAVID
edmonton oilers

If they really want to make things interesting they should ask McDavid:

Which franchise would you select to start your NHL career?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Yes there is. It's objectively awful. The opinions of hockey players cannot change that. I don't know what their justification for that view is, but if it's what Huntingwhale said (being "in a playoff race") then they're just deluding themselves. It does not encourage playoff races, it makes it nearly impossible to catch up.

It also encourages defensive play such that the better strategy is to try not to get scored on rather than to score goals... in a league that can't figure out how to increase excitement and scoring. A team that wins 0 games in regulation but goes to overtime 90% of the time will have a better record than a team that wins 60% of its games in regulation but only gets to overtime 10% of the time.

So either they're stupid, delusional, or most likely, they just don't think that much about it and so answered the poll question with "it's fine I guess".

Haven't people ran the numbers to show that a 3 point system doesn't drastically effect the standings order from the 2 point system? We have seen first hand with the Flames this season that the coach in fact does play conservatively in the 3rd period to get the single point so I don't necessarily agree that making a regulation win worth 3 points is going to make conservative coaches risk guaranteed points available in extra time just to get that extra point. I feel plenty would be happy playing conservative to ensure one point over going for it and risking zero points. The only time this may come into play is late in the season when teams are facing mathematical elimination situations and need 3 points but most of the season I don't see it changing much.

[Kovaz]

I find it odd that there are any players who'd pick Carey Price over Patrick Roy, Peter Forsberg over Wayne Gretzky, or Scott Niedermayer over Bobby Orr in their respective GOAT at their positions polls.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Just re-doing the standings with a 3 point system assumes that the games are played the same way under a system that functions properly. Current coaching strategies reflect success, which in turn reflects the fact that a goal prevented is worth about three times as much as a goal scored, solely because of the loser point. It might take a while for the league to adjust, but a 50% increase in points in the standings is not a small thing, and teams that "go for it" and succeed would be the class of the league. The class of the league tends to be emulated, because this is a copycat sport. It would make a bigger difference as the season goes along, too - teams chasing playoff spots being more inclined to play aggressively.

Just mathematically, by the way, this is wrong:

I don't necessarily agree that making a regulation win worth 3 points is going to make conservative coaches risk guaranteed points available in extra time just to get that extra point. I feel plenty would be happy playing conservative to ensure one point over going for it and risking zero points.

Assuming everything else is equal, if you go to overtime in a 3 point system, you're either getting 2 points or 1. Your point value is 1.5. If you go for broke in regulation, and we assume the game ends before OT, you're getting 3 points or 0. Your point value again is 1.5. Of course, things aren't equal, and teams that press tend to have more success, which is why trailing teams tend to produce most of the offense in a game they're behind in.

[FanIn80]

Forsberg getting mad love from the players is awesome!

[GioforPM]

Best ice must mean for drinks in the room.

Seriously, I still think the dome has bad ice, but it's relative. IMO it's bad considering (a) the Dome doesn't have basketball or arena football; (b) we are in Canada; and (c) we once had the among the best ice anywhere.

It's certainly not as bad as some southern rinks, which get affected by ambient temperature and other sports. That said, I was in Glendale for the Flames game, at ice level, and it was cold (and I didn't see a lot of bad ice).

There was a distinct lack of Jagr in some of those categories (eg. favorite player growing up). I wonder if he was active during the poll and therefore not eligible.

I take Hasek over Roy, Brodeur or Price.