Monahan in Overtime - Stats vs the rest of history

[You Need a Thneed]

Monahan now has 9 career OT winners in 348 career games played.

In the entire history of the NHL - the next lowest number of games played by someone with at least 9 OT goals is Howie Morenz, who played in 550 games.

Among current players, the lowest number of games played to have at least 9 is Max Pacioretty - who has 10 in 592 games. Three seasons more worth of games.

Max Pacioretty, Frank Finnigan, Howie Morenz, and Sean Monahan are the only players in NHL history that have at least 8 OT goals and less than 600 games played.

Only 7 current players have at least 7 OT goals without having played 600 games, though Ryan O'Reilly at 598 games is about to go off that list. O'reilly (598 games), Pacioretty, Marchand (552 games), OEL (525 games), Hall (480 games), Tarasenko (370 games) and Monahan.

Going down to 6 OT goals in 600 games or less adds Backlund (490 games), David Jones (462 games), John Moore, and Galchenyuk.

No player with fewer than Monahan's 348 games has more than 4 OT goals. The lowest of these is Gostisbehere, with only 167 games played.

All time, Ovechkin has this season taken sole possession of 1st, he has 20 OT goals in his career, Jagr is second with 19.

Only 3 players in history have more than 15 (Elias had 16).

Only 15 players all time have more than 11, Jeff Carter and Daniel Briere are the only 2 of those who have played less than 1000 games.

Only 25 players all time have at least 11.

[Plaedo]

I prefer Barkov

It was wise of Gaudreau and Monahan to be so adamant about signing similar contracts to ensure playing together, they really compliment eachother well. Monahan is truly proving to be Captain Clutch.

[RM14]

Wet blanket... 3 on 3 era is a completely different epoch

[dino7c]

is he not the leader of the 3 on 3 era?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by RM14

Wet blanket... 3 on 3 era is a completely different epoch

Yeah, but there are a bunch of active players in the OP who have played just as much 3 v 3 OT. Any way you cut it, Monahan's achievement is very impressive.

[420since1974]

Sean Monahan has quietly become one of the best clutch goal scorers in the league today.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by dino7c

is he not the leader of the 3 on 3 era?

3 on 3 only, no. He only has 5. Carter has 7 and 3 other players have 6.

Monahan has 4 career 4 on 4 OT goals.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

3 on 3 only, no. He only has 5. Carter has 7 and 3 other players have 6.

Monahan has 4 career 4 on 4 OT goals.

okay, still can't say its "just because of 3 on 3"

almost half are 4 on 4

[Eric Vail]

Howie Morenz's overtime goals must have been playoffs goals because there was no regular season overtime when he played. There were ties.

[You Need a Thneed]

Breakdown by season:

4 on 4 OT
13/14 - 1
14/15 - 3

3 on 3 OT
15/16 - 1
16/17 - 2
17/18 - 2 so far

[AC]

I really hope he hits 10 sometime soon. I've been planning a video of his 10 OT goals once he gets to that mark.

I'll do something similar with Gaudreau and points because his assists are obviously pretty key in most OT goals.

[driveway]

Some Monahan-math and overall goal-scoring comparisons.

At the beginning of the season, Monahan was scoring 0.335 goals per game for his career. Just slightly below guys like Patrick Marleau and Jason Spezza (.340), almost identical to Mike Camalleri (.336), and better than Bobby Ryan (.326), Henrik Zetterberg (.321), or Anze Kopitar (.320).

Since the beginning of the season, Monahan has been scoring a phenomenal .586 gpg -- slightly better than Brett Hull's career .584 -- this has lifted Monahan's overall pace to .356 gpg, barely below Joe Pavelski and Phil Kessel (.360) and above Eric Staal (.350). So if we just watched the best 29 goal scoring games of Monahan's career and he regresses to his current career average, he's going to come within spitting distance of Kessel's career numbers.

Should he manage to tear through the whole season at .586, he'd end the year with a career rate of .387 gpg. If he then continued scoring like that, leaving 2017-18 as his outlying goal-scoring peak, he'd end his career a hair's breadth below Corey Perry (.388) and a better goal scorer than Jeff Carter (.384), Patrick Kane (.384), James Neal (.381), or Tyler Seguin (.378).

[Krynn]

I for one will admit i was dead wrong when we drafted him.i thought it was a mistake at the time .since his first camp he has came in and never looked out of place and is always improving .i like many Flames Fans think he will be the Next Captain. I look forward to watching him and Johnny tearing up the league 4 years to come.

[JD]

Out of curiosity, who did you think we should have drafted?

I remember leading up, there was a lot of debate over Barkov vs. Monahan vs. Lindholm with some hoping that Drouin would fall and others wanting Nichushkin, but only the latter plus Monahan was actually available at our position. I think if you followed the consensus at the time, Monahan was pretty much the no-brainer slam dunk pick.

It's kinda nice that the guy we got ended up being exactly what we needed, though I wouldn't balk at Barkov either.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by AC

I really hope he hits 10 sometime soon. I've been planning a video of his 10 OT goals once he gets to that mark.

I'll do something similar with Gaudreau and points because his assists are obviously pretty key in most OT goals.

I'm curious if Monahan ever scored an OT goal that Gaudreau wasn't in on?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by dino7c

okay, still can't say its "just because of 3 on 3"

almost half are 4 on 4

To be fair, it's the loser point that's made the big difference. Prior to that, teams were very conservative in OT, many played the draw.

Things have definitely been trending Monahan's way, but it's still a big accomplishment. There are reasons historical goal scorers like Hull didn't hit these kinds of OT records though.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by JD

Out of curiosity, who did you think we should have drafted?

I remember leading up, there was a lot of debate over Barkov vs. Monahan vs. Lindholm with some hoping that Drouin would fall and others wanting Nichushkin, but only the latter plus Monahan was actually available at our position. I think if you followed the consensus at the time, Monahan was pretty much the no-brainer slam dunk pick.

It's kinda nice that the guy we got ended up being exactly what we needed, though I wouldn't balk at Barkov either.

There was a reason Barkov went #2. No chance we were grabbing him at 6. All of the top five were definitely flashier picks, so I understand why some posters were disappointed. Monahan was, as you say, the no brainer.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

I'm curious if Monahan ever scored an OT goal that Gaudreau wasn't in on?

Would you believe Gaudreau has only been involved in 3 of his 9 OT goals?

His four 4-on-4 OT goals occurred without Gaudreau:
1. From Byron: https://youtu.be/lpIMiVUBzdM?t=395
2. From Jooris: https://youtu.be/1SeYvBrbMSw?t=63
3. From Gio (Glencross the other forward): https://youtu.be/1SeYvBrbMSw?t=119
4. From Gio (Byron the other forward): https://youtu.be/1SeYvBrbMSw?t=270

And of his 3-on-3 goals:
5. From Brodie and Hamilton: https://youtu.be/gXKQCOjCH-4?t=211
7. From Gio and Frolik: https://youtu.be/11l_2SEvYOo?t=518

From Gaudreau:
6. vs BUF: https://youtu.be/11l_2SEvYOo?t=7
8. in LA this year
9. in MTL

[nemanja2306]

Originally Posted by JD

Out of curiosity, who did you think we should have drafted?

I remember leading up, there was a lot of debate over Barkov vs. Monahan vs. Lindholm with some hoping that Drouin would fall and others wanting Nichushkin, but only the latter plus Monahan was actually available at our position. I think if you followed the consensus at the time, Monahan was pretty much the no-brainer slam dunk pick.

It's kinda nice that the guy we got ended up being exactly what we needed, though I wouldn't balk at Barkov either.

Wouldn't balk?

I LOVE Monahan but there are two players I would still take over him today - Barkov and McKinnon (if we are talking about potential, what they have done so far - Monahan.). Barkov doesn't have the goalscoring ability of Monahan (in fact, nobody from this draft class does) but he's a superior playmaker and much,much better defensively. The guy's a future 60+ point Selke winner.

This is not a knock on Monahan at all, Barkov is just that damn good. Looking at the draft class (just forwards), Barkov and Monahan are clearly above the rest.

[The Cobra]

Are the stats available of OT goals per OT games played?

Basing it on games played could be quite inaccurate as some teams have presumably played more OT games than others.