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Old 07-02-2017, 04:22 PM   #1
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Icon24 VGK get Marcus Kruger from CHI for future considerations & flips him to CAR for a 5th

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Old 07-02-2017, 04:27 PM   #2
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On Kruger trade to Vegas, someone should tell Marcus not to unpack. Team has yet to decide if he stays or gets dealt.
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Old 07-02-2017, 04:28 PM   #3
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Timed due to the payout of his $2M signing bonus yesterday, right?
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:52 PM   #4
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On Kruger trade to Vegas, someone should tell Marcus not to unpack. Team has yet to decide if he stays or gets dealt.
Presumably if he could have been dealt, Chicago would have done so.

Unless the $2M actual money makes a difference?
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Don't understand why LV wants him.
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:06 PM   #6
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Why is George Mcphee more concerned about making friends than building a good team?

You'd think the Hawks would have paid something to get rid of Kruger.
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Old 07-03-2017, 01:18 AM   #8
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Why is George Mcphee more concerned about making friends than building a good team?

You'd think the Hawks would have paid something to get rid of Kruger.
They did. They left Trevor van Riemsdyk unprotected in the expansion draft and didn't trade him beforehand.

Vegas traded van Riemsdyk to Carolina for a second round draft pick. Carolina had protected Ryan Murphy in the expansion draft. Two weeks later, they insisted the Flames take Murphy as part of the Lack trade.

It's safe to assume that Chicago could have traded van Riemsdyk to Carolina for that same second round pick before the expansion draft and Vegas would have had a lesser player to choose from Chicago.


Essentially, Chicago traded Vegas a second round pick to take Kruger.
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Marcus Kruger's also a decent bottom 6 player. Chicago just can't fit him with their cap situation.
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TSN reporting that Kruger is about to be traded to Carolina.
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Old 07-03-2017, 06:58 PM   #11
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One thing's for sure, if I were Vegas, I would've kept TVR instead of trading him. They'd have a nice young D core with Van Riemsdyk, Theodore, Schmidt and Miller.
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NEWS: We have acquired a fifth-round pick in the 2018 NHL Draft from @NHLCanes for Marcus Kruger.
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Must be strange as a player to be traded twice in a matter of days. I wonder where he would prefer to play to be honest. An expansion team or a dying market team. Sounds crappy either way after playing in hockey crazed Chicago.
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So vegas paid $2m signing bonus and then traded him for a fifth?
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I am really underwhelmed with what Vegas is doing so far. That's going to be a really bad team.
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So vegas paid $2m signing bonus and then traded him for a fifth?
I don't believe that's the case, he should have already been paid by Chicago prior to being traded. 2M is extremely pricey for a 5th rounder.

I think you need to look at the Chicago-Vegas-Carolina, van Riemsdyk and Kruger deals as a total package and not separate deals.

Chicago agrees to keep van Riemsdyk and expose him in turn for Vegas selecting him and taking on Kruger's contract after the bonus is paid.

Vegas trades van Riemsdyk, a 7th, and soon to be Kruger, to Carolina for a 2nd and 5th.
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I am really underwhelmed with what Vegas is doing so far. That's going to be a really bad team.
How is it any different than any team going through a rebuild that wants to build through the draft? Sucking now is optimal.
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How is it any different than any team going through a rebuild that wants to build through the draft? Sucking now is optimal.
The difference is the NHL structured expansion this time around so that teams would be forced to expose good, young players.

Vegas would have been far better off selecting those players than making all of these stupid deals for what amounts to lottery tickets for players that may or may not be as good as the players they chose to ignore.

It's poor management, IMO.

These weren't aging veterans they backed away from, they had a chance to ice a really good, young and cost-controlled team. Why they chose to go a different route is mind boggling, really.

That said, it's good for Calgary, because that Vegas team next season is going to suck hard.
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I am really underwhelmed with what Vegas is doing so far. That's going to be a really bad team.
They were always going to be a bad team.

At least now they have a better chance of eventually being a better team.

They are a rebuilding team given a certain set of assets they could do whatever they wanted to with. They have chosen in some cases to trade those assets for draft picks.

That's called smart rebuilding.
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The difference is the NHL structured expansion this time around so that teams would be forced to expose good, young players.

Vegas would have been far better off selecting those players than making all of these stupid deals for what amounts to lottery tickets for players that may or may not be as good as the players they chose to ignore.

It's poor management, IMO.

These weren't aging veterans they backed away from, they had a chance to ice a really good, young and cost-controlled team. Why they chose to go a different route is mind boggling, really.

That said, it's good for Calgary, because that Vegas team next season is going to suck hard.

I don't believe that Vegas backed away from any good, young, cost controlled players.

The only players that fit that description would not have been exposed if deals had not been made.
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