[Game Takes] Rangers 4 Flames 1

[Bingo]

http://www.calgarypuck.com/2016/11/g...rs-4-flames-1/

[Manhattanboy]

Bingo, season ain't so young, 20% done.

[GranteedEV]

Did you really think Kulak was the goat of the night due to his -4?

Here is goal #1:


Got burned a bit trying to keep the play alive but I doubt he recognized grabner is one of the single fastest players in the league and that still shouldn't have been a goal. Hamilton also took away the pass to make the 3-on-1 into a 1-on-1. I would put that one on Elliott.

Here is goal#2:


Engelland, with time to spare, makes an absolutely brutal play. Kulak is stuck defending what is essentially a two-on-one. I'm sure when he is 26, 27 he might dive sideways to break that play up but honestly, I wouldn't fault any defenseman in Kulak's situation on this goal.

Here is goal #3.


In retrospect you want him to pick Vesey up sooner, tighter and lift his stick. But McDonagh flat out rifles that pass using Hamilton as a screen. I would say that was great offense first of all, and IMO the "goat" on that play is probably Hamilton for letting McDonagh get that extra step. Maybe Kulak could have stopped the puck from going right through him like that, but I probably would have gotten just as stunned by that sequence too. He did lose the puck at the beginning, but it seems to me he just fanned on it.

Here is goal #4


I dunno, YMMV. I don't think there's a moment in that sequence where Kulak should have done anything differently.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Listen. There really wasn't that much different between the two teams other than the Rangers capitalized on their chances.....

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Did you really think Kulak was the goat of the night due to his -4?

Here is goal #1:


Got burned a bit trying to keep the play alive but I doubt he recognized grabner is one of the single fastest players in the league and that still shouldn't have been a goal. Hamilton also took away the pass to make the 3-on-1 into a 1-on-1. I would put that one on Elliott.

Here is goal#2:


Engelland, with time to spare, makes an absolutely brutal play. Kulak is stuck defending what is essentially a two-on-one. I'm sure when he is 26, 27 he might dive sideways to break that play up but honestly, I wouldn't fault any defenseman in Kulak's situation on this goal.

Here is goal #3.


In retrospect you want him to pick Vesey up sooner, tighter and lift his stick. But McDonagh flat out rifles that pass using Hamilton as a screen. I would say that was great offense first of all, and IMO the "goat" on that play is probably Hamilton for letting McDonagh get that extra step. Maybe Kulak could have stopped the puck from going right through him like that, but I probably would have gotten just as stunned by that sequence too.

Here is goal #4


I dunno, YMMV. I don't think there's a moment in that sequence where Kulak should have done anything differently.

I broke down Butler's -7 one night that some people remember.

Well, they remember the night and the stat but most people had the number fit their narrative so ignored the actual facts of how it went down

[iamca]

I think the most telling quotes are related to improvement. I did not see any reason to believe that this team is heading in a different direction and they play a Minnesota team that is solid.

Insider media comments aside, how long before a cap team playing poorly with no real signs of improvement are left dangling? Sit back and stay the course and expect a different result is ignorant. Overreacting and making a trade that might be worse for a team with some real assets in their system doesn't seem like the right direction. Fire the coach or several coaches might not be on the horizon for many reasons including the fact that apparently this is the first choice of their GM. Yes there are plenty of games left, however it is highly unlikely that this team is going anywhere.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Bingo, I think you're being a little too apologetic towards the coaching staff still. I'm as patient as it gets with players, coaches, management, but even I'm done with this crew. Even awful rebuilding teams can get more out of their team now and then. This team is so much further in their team building that they should at least be close to .500. Questionable decisions at times, but really the problem seems to be a poor system. Despite some advanced stat improvement, they're far worse than last year overall. The adjustment period is over. These guys should be playing well enough to win games, and they're still really bad.

[badger89]

I'm tired of dump and chase hockey, especially with a team that can't retrieve the puck. They looked better in the 3rd when the Rangers sat back on the lead and we had room to make passes. We need to find our creativity again as we're very slow and predictable moving the puck, which is really easy to defend against.

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[Badgers Nose]

This is the worst Flames team ever, despite being competitive with the best teams in terms of talent.

That is 100% on coaching staff, and maybe a little bit management as they should have better matched the coach to the type of team they have.

Also, where is the truculence? Serous question.

[ricardodw]

Let us all ignore the elephant in the room.


Kulak (and Tkachuck) were the brightest ray of hope this season. He was perhaps the only players exceeding expectations. He was +5 in 7 games and playing more minutes almost every game.

He was almost exclusively paired with Engelland.

Put Kulak with Hamilton and Kulak is a steaming pile??!!

NOBODY (except Chara) plays well with Hamilton.....

Hamilton needs to watch a few games from the stands.

Wideman had a better game last night than 12 out of Hamiltons 15 games.

Gio-Wideman
Kulak-Engelland
Brodie-Jokipaka

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

This is the worst Flames team ever, despite being competitive with the best teams in terms of talent.

That is 100% on coaching staff, and maybe a little bit management as they should have better matched the coach to the type of team they have.

Also, where is the truculence? Serous question.

You mean that other teams might be upset when their goalie gets speared in the throat?

[killer_carlson]

The bottom line is that our GM canned a coach for a lost season when everyone and their dog knew a change had to be made in goal in November.

This year, who will be the GM's scapegoat when the GM fails to make a move to bolster the roster and correct the error in the coaching selection?

We are now at a point where we have to go 18 games above 500 the rest of the way to hit 95 points. I think we'll hit 24, possibly 25 games.

And I have very little confidence that our GM can make a mid-season move without having a deadline to work against.

Edit: at this point our seaso is done. Not sure what mid-season move we should expect. Perhaps trying to find some chemistry on the top line with a new winger?

Perhaps telling the coach not to split up the Brodie giordano pairing?

[Justin]

I am absolutely sick a tired of two things in particular:

1. Dougie Hamilton fanning his stick at the puck rather than playing the body into the boards. My god, are you made of glass? Is he afraid he'll break??

2. Chaisson on the top line. What in the heck does GG see in this? Chaisson is a 3rd line centre at absolute best. He is NOT an NHL first line winger. He's not even an AHL first line winger.

I'm tired of it. I'm fed up with staying up all night to watch this team and it's useless coach. Absolute disgust.

Burke said "After 10 games players can't blame it on adjustments, now your making excuses", the same god-darn thing applies to GG.

It's one thing to say this team has a lot to learn and a far way to come, but when the lesson being taught seems to be horrible......

I'm fed up!!

[Strange Brew]

Unfortunately its not in the coaches job description to be popular with the media, nor his players.

[VilleN]

I gave the coach a long leash, but I've lost faith in him. It doesn't have to do with a bad 'system' or bad power play or PK. Our coaching staff, Gulutzan specifically, seem to have no passion, no intensity and in general don't appear to be great leaders. I think the biggest issue with this team is that their coaches aren't able get anything out of them. I haven't seen Gulutzan so much as shoot the ref a mean look after a bad call. I'm not saying I want Hartley back, but at least the guy had some passion.


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[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by VilleN

I gave the coach a long leash, but I've lost faith in him. It doesn't have to do with a bad 'system' or bad power play or PK. Our coaching staff, Gulutzan specifically, seem to have no passion, no intensity and in general don't appear to be great leaders. I think the biggest issue with this team is that their coaches aren't able get anything out of them. I haven't seen Gulutzan so much as shoot the ref a mean look after a bad call. I'm not saying I want Hartley back, but at least the guy had some passion.


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What does that say about the leadership on the team? Many CP posters were giving Gio credit for inspiring a huge culture shift in the team. Never say die etc. This teams looks uninspired and panics easily so I am really questioning the leadership.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by VilleN

I gave the coach a long leash, but I've lost faith in him. It doesn't have to do with a bad 'system' or bad power play or PK. Our coaching staff, Gulutzan specifically, seem to have no passion, no intensity and in general don't appear to be great leaders. I think the biggest issue with this team is that their coaches aren't able get anything out of them. I haven't seen Gulutzan so much as shoot the ref a mean look after a bad call. I'm not saying I want Hartley back, but at least the guy had some passion.


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This. I made a point of watching him last night at the game. He spends 75 %of his time head down in the apparent TV in the floor. After every whistle. None of the Ranger coaches did that. Try taking to your players.

[Mr.Coffee]

Bingo you infer that the players are trying to play for Gulutzan's job and that they care about him, etc.

But their actions on the ice speak very loudly otherwise. They don't look like they're playing for theirs or anyone else's lives.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by chedder

This. I made a point of watching him last night at the game. He spends 75 %of his time head down in the apparent TV in the floor. After every whistle. None of the Ranger coaches did that. Try taking to your players.

Exactly. The first red flag for me was game one after the stretch where Gaudreau got hooked and there was no call and then McDavid got that gift of a penalty shot. No reaction from Gulutzan. Hartley would have had an aneurysm.


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[Bingo]

I don't see a lack of effort to be honest ... I see utter confusion in some, complete jitters in others.

Look at the opening face off last night. Back to Giordano who takes it up the wall, loses it, gets it back, flubs it, then turns it over. First 10 seconds of the game. I was like ... here we go again.

I'm under no illusions here, this team is in big trouble in the standings. The hole is getting too deep.

But from watching hockey for 35 years, teams that make coaching changes all the time never move up the standings. I just don't see the brain center of this team stupid enough to hire a guy that can't coach.