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Old 01-30-2016, 07:36 PM   #1
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Default Star Wars Rogue One anticipation thread **NO SPOILERS- not even in tags**

I thought I would start this. I could swear there was a thread, but couldn't find. it.

but news is starting to leak out on the first Anthology story

We are going to see Vader at the height of his powers. It was hinted at in Rebels when he toyed with Kanaan and Ezra, and we'll probably see more this season.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...-a6840016.html

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'The action sequences filmed are unknown, but there was work pitching the different ways Darth Vader could kill rebels on a battlefield with the Force and his lightsaber. The storyboard “pitches” showed decapitated rebels, people being dismembered by Vader throwing his sword, levitating bodies to make human shields, and so on. The art was more violent than what we’ve seen Darth Vader do on screen before.'
http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-b...nie-yen-speak/


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  • The film will supposedly feature “Deathtroopers,” Stormtroopers with all-black armor that, from the sound of their name, are probably up to no good.
  • There will be a droid character who is being described as a “scene-stealer.” Supposedly a former Imperial droid who turns his loyalties elsewhere, this could very well be the mo-cap character Alan Tudyk is playing.
  • One of the characters is supposedly named “Cashen.” And there will be variations on TIE Fighters and AT-AT Walkers featured in the film.
  • And finally, they double-up on the previous rumors that Darth Vader will be in the film, saying that his role is larger than originally thought.
Donnie Yen's character appears to be blind but has attachment to the Force, but he's not a Jedi

There's also a rumor of a character from TCW's crossing over to this movie

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Death Trooper Helmets, looks like the Imperial Commando's from legends EU


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Old 01-30-2016, 08:45 PM   #2
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Just read there's an Obi-Wan Trilogy now in the works too.
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Hopefully they bring in Ewan, he was great in that role.
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Hopefully they bring in Ewan, he was great in that role.
Ewan was THE bright spot of the prequels. He did such a damn good job with the Obi Wan role.

I didn't care much about this movie until I read the Vader stuff above. I hope they make Darth Vader a bad ass again.
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I'm interested in this, as I'm interested in seeing some 'official' expanded universe.
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Old 01-31-2016, 04:23 AM   #6
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Sorry, didn't mean to almost de-rail the Rogue 1 hyping.

Yeah, I'm down for some Vader reclamation. He needs that dread inducing feeling again. Not emo kid turns into a robot.
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I am more interested in these than the new trilogy, I love it when they start expanding content. This will also have a direct result on Imperial Assault as these new characters, like the Deathtroopers, have a possibility of appearing there based on the timeline.

I'd love to see them make a bounty hunters movie, I know a Boba Fett movie was rumoured but even like a GoTG style Bounty Hunters movie that draws them all together for some common cause. Dengar, IG-88, Boba, Cad and Bossk snarling all over the place.

edit: oh wow it says it is out this year, awesome news. I thought we were going to have wait 2 years to see another Star Wars movie. The hype is real!!
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Once again, toys are spoiling some of the surprises for this one.

This time it's Lego's upcoming sets and a special ship making an appearance in the Rogue 1 spot.

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I am more interested in these than the new trilogy, I love it when they start expanding content. This will also have a direct result on Imperial Assault as these new characters, like the Deathtroopers, have a possibility of appearing there based on the timeline.

I'd love to see them make a bounty hunters movie, I know a Boba Fett movie was rumoured but even like a GoTG style Bounty Hunters movie that draws them all together for some common cause. Dengar, IG-88, Boba, Cad and Bossk snarling all over the place.

edit: oh wow it says it is out this year, awesome news. I thought we were going to have wait 2 years to see another Star Wars movie. The hype is real!!

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Just read there's an Obi-Wan Trilogy now in the works too.
Source? Haven't heard anything about it...
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Please change Rogue 1 to "Rogue One". We aren't animals, Captain Crunch.

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If they made Vader this badass, it could be a problem for Kylo Ren because his character still pales in comparison.

I still think JJ made a mistake in making him an emo kid. Kylo could have been a badass villain, maybe a mature villain who is basically an evil Han Solo - like his dad but without morals.
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If they made Vader this badass, it could be a problem for Kylo Ren because his character still pales in comparison.

I still think JJ made a mistake in making him an emo kid. Kylo could have been a badass villain, maybe a mature villain who is basically an evil Han Solo - like his dad but without morals.

I think we are supposed to see the evolution of Ren from an emo baby to a total badass. We saw Anakin go from a child, to an emo preteen, to an emo teen, then all of a sudden we have badass super villain Vader. No in between. Ren, I believe, is going to show that in between moment.
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If they made Vader this badass, it could be a problem for Kylo Ren because his character still pales in comparison.

I still think JJ made a mistake in making him an emo kid. Kylo could have been a badass villain, maybe a mature villain who is basically an evil Han Solo - like his dad but without morals.
I kind of disagree with you on this, and I'll tell you why.

Its a trilogy and the Kylo Ren that we have seen is not the Kylo Ren that we are going to see.

I'm actually ok with the angsty conflicted, foot in both worlds that we see Ren in during TFA. He looks incredibly powerful to the average person, but because he's not all the way in the dark, he's not all that powerful as far as a Force user is. But he will get there, I believe that there will be no redemption for Ren, I believe he will be the end of the Skywalker line, and I believe completely that there will be a confrontation between Luke and Ren, and I strongly believe that Luke will have to die for Rey to ascend.

While there was the scene where we heard Obi Wan proclaim to Rey that she had stepped into a larger world. I believe that when Ren made the decision to kill his father that he stepped into a darker world, that he opened himself up and accepted the Dark Side like never before, but while he had raw power, he still wasn't trained in it.

I would love to see a movie around Vader that happens right after the events of ROTS.

The book Dark Lord is sadly non-canon now but it covered the subject exceptionally. The Vader we meet at the start is not the Vader we meet at the end.

The Vader at the start is conflicted by his choices because for all of the promises made by Palpatine of ultimate power, Vader is left with nothing. His wife was dead along with his child. His true father figure was on the run and he couldn't beat him. His body was battered and bruised.

Sidious even knew that he had to make Anakin face and accept the consequences of his marriage of his fate to the Dark Side at his own peril.

Basically at the start of the book, its not quite Vader, its Anakin in all of his loss, fears and resentments, in a mask and suit. To Anakin the enormous power that he welded before was just beyond his reach.

As the book moves along, Palpatine is convinced that if he can make Anakin face his choices and look at them and understand that power is its own reward at a immense cost, and that for the first time he's truly free and the only companion he needs is the Dark Side of the Force. So he sends Anakin out to do various tasks for him, including tracking down Jedi.

By the end of the book, we see the Vader that we felt he should be, because he's accepted the Dark Side of the Force and accepted that the choices that he made that left him scarred and along were the price he had to pay and the sacrifice that he's had to make to gain the power that he desired.

He also realized that he didn't need to love Sidious or hate Sidious, but that Sidious who had lied to him and bought him to ruin was needed . . . for a time . . . because Sidious was his path to greater power.

Ren is where Anakin was towards the end of that book, but without the training. I think we'll see Ren's face once in the next movie at the start and then he'll except that he is the mask and not the man.
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If they made Vader this badass, it could be a problem for Kylo Ren because his character still pales in comparison.

I still think JJ made a mistake in making him an emo kid. Kylo could have been a badass villain, maybe a mature villain who is basically an evil Han Solo - like his dad but without morals.
I think the whole point is that he will be.

There arent really any spoilers but just in case:

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Also yes. I also vote for title change.
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Oh man, I'm so hyped for this movie. Being the biggest Donnie Yen fan out there, I really hope he gets a chance to shine.
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Locke simplifies it nicely. Next movie we'll see Kylo as more of an evil badass type character. Then in the final move he'll be the master of all badassery with the twist (an unexpected one, likely) where he slips up and dies, or a "chink in his armour" is discovered and used to bring him back tot he light side, ala Vader.
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Locke simplifies it nicely. Next movie we'll see Kylo as more of an evil badass type character. Then in the final move he'll be the master of all badassery with the twist (an unexpected one, likely) where he slips up and dies, or a "chink in his armour" is discovered and used to bring him back tot he light side, ala Vader.
Possibly, but as much as Star Wars has always been about the possibility of Redemption, I would like it better if in the end Ren refuses to make that journey back, and only realizes in the last minute that Snoke and the Dark Side of the Force used him.

I think there is too much reliance on the Anakin Story. Where Anakin had that spark of good in him. Palpatine was the embodiment of the Dark side.

One of the greatest descriptions that I've seen was in the revenge of the Sith book at the start of the final duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan against Dooku with Palpatines life in the balance.

Dooku could see deeply in the force and looked at his three components.

When he looked at Obi-Wan he saw a sunny field on a calm day.

When he looked at Anakin he saw a storm on the horizon, with lightning exploding through the clouds.

When he looked at Palpatine he saw a event horizon, a thing of un-imaginable power that would destroy anything around him and could basically devour the light.

I would like to see the setting switch a bit in this one.

Where Rey becomes that park.

Snoke is the lightning storm but one of immense power, and in the end Ren was the event horizon.

The other thing that I loved about the revenge of the Sith book was its description of the Dark Side of the Force and Palpatine himself in the beginning.

Where they talked about the light side being everywhere, but being unable to destroy the dark side because the darkside was hidden in plain sight, like the shadow under a bench or a shoe, or in the corner of your house, and that eventually it would grow as night came.

In the end of the book when the galaxy was left in darkness all it would take was a single spark to start driving the night or the dark back.

So what does that mean in this case?

I would like to see Snoke as the one who's redeemable, and Ren as the un-repentant Dark Sider.
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Much appreciated Thread Title change.
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