02-19-2016, 11:17 AM
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Scoring Winger
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TJ Brodie - bright spot in a not so great season?
In 47 games since his injury he's amassed 33 points (4-29), good for 58 points in 82 games. This would put him ahead of Wideman's career year last season (56) in just his 5th season in the league.
Whether or not you put much stock into a stat such as +/-, when you look at the Flames stats there is one thing not like the rest and that's Brodie. He is a +14. The next closest Flame to that on defence is Engelland at an even 0, then Giordano at -2. Actually no one on the team is even close to him in that regard except Gaudreau (+9), who puts up a point on a nightly basis. I'm not an expert on the advanced stats and perhaps someone can dig those up, but it appears TJ has clearly been an aberration from the mean in a year where arguably only Gaudreau has taken a step forward from last season, whereas everyone else has taken a small - or large - step back.
He continues to shine individually despite the team's overall performance and it's showing on paper and on the ice. One would think he should get plenty of consideration for the world cup of hockey and upcoming Olympics based on the way he is trending.
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02-19-2016, 11:19 AM
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First Line Centre
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Location: CGY
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TJ Brodie - bright spot in a not so great season?
Yup, We know he's good. Wonder if he'll make Team Canada? Or if he's still that underrated.
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02-19-2016, 11:23 AM
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He is #6 in the recent Top Ten list of Positional Power Rankings by Jonathan Willis at Sportsnet - not too bad at all!
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/n...st-defencemen/
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6. T.J. Brodie, Calgary Flames (46GP | 4G | 27A | 31PTS)
Brodie ranks fifth in even-strength scoring by defencemen and has both good shot and goal numbers on a bad team, all while playing the toughest available opposition. Last month: 3
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02-19-2016, 11:24 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: stuck in BC watching the nucks
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Best defenceman on the Flames.
Most underrated defenceman in the NHL (he's top 10, easy).
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Agreed and I would even say top 5 in the NHL.
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02-19-2016, 11:41 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScorchyScorch
In 47 games since his injury he's amassed 33 points (4-29), good for 58 points in 82 games. This would put him ahead of Wideman's career year last season (56) in just his 5th season in the league.
Whether or not you put much stock into a stat such as +/-, when you look at the Flames stats there is one thing not like the rest and that's Brodie. He is a +14. The next closest Flame to that on defence is Engelland at an even 0, then Giordano at -2. Actually no one on the team is even close to him in that regard except Gaudreau (+9), who puts up a point on a nightly basis. I'm not an expert on the advanced stats and perhaps someone can dig those up, but it appears TJ has clearly been an aberration from the mean in a year where arguably only Gaudreau has taken a step forward from last season, whereas everyone else has taken a small - or large - step back.
He continues to shine individually despite the team's overall performance and it's showing on paper and on the ice. One would think he should get plenty of consideration for the world cup of hockey and upcoming Olympics based on the way he is trending.
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Your thread title goes against the predominate theme here at CP:
Gio is an All Star near Norris D-man who at age 33 has committed to the Flames on a very Flames favorable contract.
Hamilton was a steal of a deal and has shown signs that he will be a dominate D-man well worth his contract next year if not the year after.
Russell is playing at level where someone will pay him 5M long term and the home town discount that the Flames should sign him is 4Mx4
Frolik is one of the Flames top forwards and is well worth his 21M over 5 years.
On the positive things that IMHO actually do compete with the Brodie good news:
Gaudreau
Monahan
Bennett
To say that the Flames are having a "not so great season" is inviting ridicule and questions about your hockey knowledge.
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02-19-2016, 11:47 AM
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Franchise Player
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02-19-2016, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
To say that the Flames are having a "not so great season" is inviting ridicule and questions about your hockey knowledge.
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LOL. Are you serious? What is wrong with how he wrote it? Not everyone screams what they mean like you do. You're arguing over semantics, I'm pretty sure that the poster is aware the Flames have been a tire fire this year even of he didn't beat us over the head with it. We get it. The Flames suck. Happy?
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02-19-2016, 11:49 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
Flames Frolik CP Hamilton etc
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^What?
This post is an abstract mixed bag of thoughts about the Flames and CP, but presented sarcastically. I have no idea what you're actually trying to say.
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02-19-2016, 11:50 AM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Your thread title goes against the predominate theme here at CP:
To say that the Flames are having a "not so great season" is inviting ridicule and questions about your hockey knowledge.
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And if anyone knows about inviting ridicule and having their hockey knowledge questioned....
Seriously though - we all know the Flames have good building block, Brodie begin one of them. The reason this season is "not so great" is that as fans we want to see a winning team, and we know they have been let down by poor special teams and goaltending
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02-19-2016, 11:51 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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What I find fascinating about Brodie (but frustrating as a fantasy owner LOL), is his lack of shots. The guy has only taken 56 shots this season, slightly above a shot per game.
For a guy with 33 points in 47 games, he sure does create a lot of offense. Impressive really, Kaberle comes to mind but he's so much more than that too...
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02-19-2016, 11:52 AM
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Scoring Winger
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This is about Brodie. We could use something overwhelmingly positive to discuss and there isn't yet an individual Brodie appreciation thread.
I didn't say the "only" bright spot.
Frolik and Hamilton have also statistically done worse than their previous seasons, or are on pace to.
And lol actually they aren't having a great season? I'm not sure if your post is a joke or not. It appears so.
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02-19-2016, 11:57 AM
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
What I find fascinating about Brodie (but frustrating as a fantasy owner LOL), is his lack of shots. The guy has only taken 56 shots this season, slightly above a shot per game.
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....and also his shot is an absolute muffin. If he had a good shot, he'd win the Norris.
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02-19-2016, 12:07 PM
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He's been the biggest bright spot, but I'd say there are several other points that have pleased me.
Monahan has shown a real development of his play making ability, really stepped up an area of weakness in his game.
Gaudreau shrugging off his sophmore slump. There had to have been questions asked over wether he could do what he did last season again. He has, on a much worse team than last years. He's been our best forward by a mile.
Gio has recovered from a really poor start to the season and whilst he is still a level short of his top top form, hopefully if he ends the season healthy and has a full off-season to get himself in top shape, he'll come back as good as ever.
Hamilton has moulded himself into a decent player after a bad start as well. Looks like a real asset on the PP, has really added some scoring depth and offensive ability to our blue line.
But yeah, Brodie has been the biggest standout for me. We knew he was important last season, but this season he's proven to be, along with Johnny, 1 of our 2 most valuable players and one of the cornerstones of the team for the next 5 years at least.
It's not been all doom and gloom, there have been positives from this season. Brodie is the biggest, but as already mentioned, there are a number of others as well.
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02-19-2016, 12:18 PM
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Franchise Player
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Brodie is awesome. His career ppg has gone as follows:
0.26
0.30
0.38
0.51
0.70
Nice progression.
Other bright spots, and important ones because they pertain to the future of this team:
Brodie - As discussed above.
Hamilton - Has improved tremendously since the his slow start.
Bennett - Having a stellar rookie season, despite a slow start offensively.
Gaudreau - A massive sophomore season.
Monahan - Leveled off somewhat in his third season, but nothing to worry about IMO. He's 21 and if what he is now is all he ever becomes, then there is nothing wrong with a 20-30 goal, 50-60 point solid two way center.
Those are the bright spots you want to have in a rebuild. Much better than having the team be lifted by career years from 30+ year old players like Hudler and Wideman.
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02-19-2016, 12:22 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Your thread title goes against the predominate theme here at CP:
Gio is an All Star near Norris D-man who at age 33 has committed to the Flames on a very Flames favorable contract.
Hamilton was a steal of a deal and has shown signs that he will be a dominate D-man well worth his contract next year if not the year after.
Russell is playing at level where someone will pay him 5M long term and the home town discount that the Flames should sign him is 4Mx4
Frolik is one of the Flames top forwards and is well worth his 21M over 5 years.
On the positive things that IMHO actually do compete with the Brodie good news:
Gaudreau
Monahan
Bennett
To say that the Flames are having a "not so great season" is inviting ridicule and questions about your hockey knowledge.
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I'm sorry, what was that about Lee Stempniak?
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02-19-2016, 12:30 PM
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Sometimes I feel bad for ricardow and the beating he takes after almost all his posts.
Then I read the post.
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02-19-2016, 12:40 PM
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There have actually been many bright spots this year. Brodie probably the brightest, because he's amazing, but:
- Gaudreau is one of the leading scorers in the NHL on a team with a bad power play. Can you just imagine if we had a good power play?
- Ferland has been really good.
- Backlund is quietly having the best year of his career after a rocky start. He should finish with 40-45 points while being a positive possession forward
- Sam Bennett.
- Dougie Hamilton
- Hudler is starting to heat up before the deadline
- The biggest issue is the most easily rectified one, goaltending.
- We've not just bad enough to miss the playoffs, we're probably bad enough in the standings for Matthews or Laine. Way better outcome than 12th-last-place
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02-19-2016, 02:37 PM
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I would also add Gio as a bright spot as well. Took him a bit to get going after coming off his injury, but he has been his true self for the past three months - a good example of leadership and consistency.
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02-19-2016, 02:38 PM
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Could Care Less
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Backlund's play over the past 20 games has been a bright spot for me.
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