I'm still of the mind set that if you catch a dealer selling this it should be absolutely life in prison with hard labor.
They're selling a killer drug and gambling with peoples life, that to me makes these dealers way more reprehensible then the already parasitic reprehensible drug dealer.
I'd also be ok with hanging them.
They're literally killing people for a profit.
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I don't think increasing the punishment would do much. It hasn't anywhere else in the world for other drugs.
Education is likely a better place to start. And comprehensive (and free) rehab programs.
The education and rehab is a great start, I don't disagree.
And to me its not about punishment. A person that goes out of their way to sell a poison pill for profit is a psychopath and there's no place in society for them.
They're dirtbags and the worst kind of scum.
Especially since their target market is younger drug users.
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First hand experience here, as a Paramedic, the people I've had to administer narcan to, for the most part, are completely indifferent to how close to death they were. I had a guy just sitting on the stretcher texting his buddies, zero ####s given, wondering when he's getting out. I even ask them, with what everyone knows about this stuff, why do you try it. Some are like well I tried less this time, so I thought it was fine, or they just wanted to see what it was about. Dumb people can't be fixed, we've had the same people in multiple times in the same week. They just simply don't care.
First hand experience here, as a Paramedic, the people I've had to administer narcan to, for the most part, are completely indifferent to how close to death they were. I had a guy just sitting on the stretcher texting his buddies, zero ####s given, wondering when he's getting out. I even ask them, with what everyone knows about this stuff, why do you try it. Some are like well I tried less this time, so I thought it was fine, or they just wanted to see what it was about. Dumb people can't be fixed, we've had the same people in multiple times in the same week. They just simply don't care.
Did you even watch the documentary? It's obvious they care. Honestly it's kind of disheartening knowing you're a paramedic and have that attitude.
Sure some don't care whether they die or not but I'm sure most would quit tomorrow if they could. It's called an addiction for a reason. Fentanyl is highly addictive and calling them dumb isn't really understanding the issues they face.
The guy near the end was trying to quit and get into treatment and there was a couple months wait just to get in. That doesn't seem like someone who doesn't care.
Did you even watch the documentary? It's obvious they care. Honestly it's kind of disheartening knowing you're a paramedic and have that attitude.
Sure some don't care whether they die or not but I'm sure most would quit tomorrow if they could. It's called an addiction for a reason. Fentanyl is highly addictive and calling them dumb isn't really understanding the issues they face.
The guy near the end was trying to quit and get into treatment and there was a couple months wait just to get in. That doesn't seem like someone who doesn't care.
I guy on the front line knows less about what he's seen than a documentary?
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Did you even watch the documentary? It's obvious they care. Honestly it's kind of disheartening knowing you're a paramedic and have that attitude.
Sure some don't care whether they die or not but I'm sure most would quit tomorrow if they could. It's called an addiction for a reason. Fentanyl is highly addictive and calling them dumb isn't really understanding the issues they face.
The guy near the end was trying to quit and get into treatment and there was a couple months wait just to get in. That doesn't seem like someone who doesn't care.
Lol, Aleks was talking about first hand experience, as a paramedic. That has to carry some weight. Not everyone is the same.. anyway whether they care or not, it's equally horrifying
I guy on the front line knows less about what he's seen than a documentary?
A guy on the front line knows more than the actual people addicted? And being a paramedic doesn't make you some sort of super hero who understands addiction better than anyone else. He's trained to save lives and that's very honorable but don't pretend his opinion can't be wrong.
it's not only the "dumb" people who are addicted to opiates and you as a pharmacist must know that.
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A guy on the front line knows more than the actual people addicted? And being a paramedic doesn't make you some sort of super hero who understands addiction better than anyone else. He's trained to save lives and that's very honorable but don't pretend his opinion can't be wrong.
it's not only the "dumb" people who are addicted to opiates and you as a pharmacist must know that.
Did it ever occur to you that the ones that don't care wouldn't be in the documentary? You just said it's not only the 'dumb' people. Aleks is dealing with all walks of life I'm sure.
Canada and the United States lead the world in Opiate prescriptions by far. Like one of the doctors in the video says "do Americans and Canadians feel more pain than the rest of the world"?
This is also a doctor over prescribing issue as well.
Blasted? "Disheartening knowing you're a paramedic and have that attitude" that's blasting him?
that's an opinion just like his opinion is that the people who are addicted are dumb.
Yeah - saying you are disheartened that he is a paramedic- qualifies for blasting.
Why are you being so combative in this thread?
The guy has REAL LIFE experience dealing with people affected by this drug - something few on this site have. He shares that - and you basically call out whether or not he is a good paramedic.
Seems rude and completely out of line.
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Did it ever occur to you that the ones that don't care wouldn't be in the documentary? You just said it's not only the 'dumb' people. Aleks is dealing with all walks of life I'm sure.
Yeah I'm sure he is and he also doesn't know their story either.
Were they functioning adults before an injury lead to a prescription that then led to an addiction?
There are all types of people who are addicted. Homeless, lawyers, accountants, etc...really smart people do all type of drugs and really smart people OD all the time.
Fentanyl crisis in Calgary: Vice documentary
