06-22-2016, 07:09 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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I'm on Snoop's side here. There is no chance whatsoever that allowing him that mark would be confusing to the customer or would harm the Maple Leafs' brand. They aren't even in the same category.
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06-22-2016, 07:13 AM
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#3
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Can you even trademark something like a leaf which is a part of nature? I could understand if he used "Maple Leafs by Snoop" but the word "leaf" should not be able to be trademarked.
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06-22-2016, 07:18 AM
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#4
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Franchise Player
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Part of the problem is that even if you're going to lose, there's value in defending your marks. This is why you get the bad look cases where big companies try to smash some local little concern with a similar name. Can't allow for the precedent where you've given an inch.
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06-22-2016, 07:33 AM
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#5
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Can you even trademark something like a leaf which is a part of nature? I could understand if he used "Maple Leafs by Snoop" but the word "leaf" should not be able to be trademarked.
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The mark has to be associated with an actual product.
So you can't trademark the word "apple" by itself. But you can trademark "Apple" as a computer and phone manufacturer, and therefore block any other computer or phone company from calling themselves "Apple". Likewise, Apple Computers can't prevent Apple Records (which owns the Beatles' library) from using the name - they operate in different industries and there is no risk of confusion between the two.
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06-22-2016, 07:46 AM
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#6
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Franchise Player
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you have to be high to be a leafs fan anywyas.......I will show myself out now
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06-22-2016, 08:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Can you even trademark something like a leaf which is a part of nature? I could understand if he used "Maple Leafs by Snoop" but the word "leaf" should not be able to be trademarked.
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MLSE could make the case that the word Leafs is not generally accepted as a grammatically correct pluralization of the word leaf.
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06-22-2016, 08:12 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Leafs being pretty blunt in the lawsuit. They don't want their brand to go up in smoke.
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06-22-2016, 08:13 AM
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#9
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Franchise Player
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I'm siding with Snoop Dogg because he is awesome.
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06-22-2016, 11:26 AM
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#10
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Franchise Player
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
I'm siding with Snoop Dogg because he is awesome.
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Yes, yes he is.
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06-22-2016, 11:31 AM
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#11
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Lifetime Suspension
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Waiting for Big Tuna to come in and make some snide, smug comments siding with MLSE
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06-22-2016, 12:02 PM
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#12
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I can't see MLSE winning this. There is no ambiguity between the logos or products.
Great free advertising for Snoop though. I had no idea his product line even existed until now
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06-22-2016, 12:02 PM
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#13
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Waiting for Big Tuna to come in and make some snide, smug comments siding with MLSE
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Probably along the lines of before the Toronto Maple Leafs trees simply had green, blade like appendages and there was just regular syrup.
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06-22-2016, 12:17 PM
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#14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Part of the problem is that even if you're going to lose, there's value in defending your marks. This is why you get the bad look cases where big companies try to smash some local little concern with a similar name. Can't allow for the precedent where you've given an inch.
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Even further, you have to police the even possible infringement of trademarks or you can lose your right to them.
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06-22-2016, 12:24 PM
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#15
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Franchise Player
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Snoop will probably forget about this in a week or so and his venture will go nowhere.
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06-22-2016, 12:48 PM
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#16
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Five-hole
Even further, you have to police the even possible infringement of trademarks or you can lose your right to them.
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No, you really don't.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/1...ensor-internet
Relevant bit starts here:
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Second, Canonical is not “required” to enforce its mark in every instance or risk losing it. The circumstances under which a company could actually lose a trademark—such as abandonment and genericide—are quite limited. Genericide occurs when a trademark becomes the standard term for a type of good (‘zipper’ and ‘escalator’ being two famous examples). This is very rare and would not be a problem for Canonical unless people start saying “Ubuntu” simply to mean “operating system.” Courts also set a very high bar to show abandonment (usually years of total non-use). Importantly, failure to enforce a mark against every potential infringer does not show abandonment.
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06-22-2016, 01:00 PM
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#17
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Why don't they sue the Maple Leaf brand meat company while they're at it?
Last edited by Drak; 06-22-2016 at 01:08 PM.
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06-22-2016, 01:07 PM
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#18
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
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The case discussed in that article was not an issue of potentially confusing trademarks and had a lot to do with free expression. Not the case here.
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06-22-2016, 01:25 PM
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#19
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
Snoop will probably forget about this in a week or so and his venture will go nowhere.
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I know you're probably just joking but don't underestimate the business acumen of Snoop. The guy could never make another song and donate all of his music royalty cheques to charity and his pinky toe is still worth more than I'll make in 10 lifetimes. The guy has a stake in Reddit which was most recently valued at $4B. Even if he's only in it for 1% that's still $40M. And we haven't even mentioned all of the other, often cannabis themed, business ventures he's involved in.
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06-22-2016, 01:26 PM
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Franchise Player
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I'm not disputing how much money he's earned. I'm just questioning his attention span.
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