03-05-2016, 07:35 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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NHL considering moving up the draft age to 19
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03-05-2016, 07:49 PM
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Back in the 70's the draft age was 20 which was a win win for both Junior hockey and the NHL. Players were more developed and GM's of NHL teams got a better picture of a players talents. Junior teams got to keep their star players a few more years which in turn increased the quality of hockey fans got to see.
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03-05-2016, 08:25 PM
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How would they transition to this. Would they have to skip a draft? If one year it's 18 and the next it was 19 it would just be the undrafted players from the year before.
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03-05-2016, 08:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
How would they transition to this. Would they have to skip a draft? If one year it's 18 and the next it was 19 it would just be the undrafted players from the year before.
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Knowing the Flames luck, they will finish last and the NHL will decide to skip that year.
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03-05-2016, 08:31 PM
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I dislike the idea that it would be harder for the Oilers to pick the wrong guys and ruin the guys they do pick.
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03-05-2016, 08:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
How would they transition to this. Would they have to skip a draft? If one year it's 18 and the next it was 19 it would just be the undrafted players from the year before.
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would not need to be an instant transition from 18 to 19. For example, they could transition over a 4 year period, moving the birthday cut-off by 3 months per year
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03-05-2016, 08:37 PM
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I'm guessing this needs to be collectively bargained. Linseman already proved it can't be imposed from on high. I wonder if the top 18 year olds in North America will go the Matthews route and sign in Europe for one year.
There are a lot of implications to this -- entry-level contracts, bridge contracts, burning a year for college free agents, free agency.
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03-05-2016, 08:42 PM
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If they brought it up to 20 again, you'd rarely see teams lose their rights to players drafted out of the US. Less injuries to players that are rushed (Nugent-Hopkins). I like the idea actually.
Edit: not to mention the RFA years would change. Could help a lot of teams, makes sense.
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03-05-2016, 08:46 PM
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Scoring Winger
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The NBA did this several years ago. 18 year old high schoolers were allowed to be drafted in the past. Many Superstars came right out of High School like Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, LeBron James, Dwight Howard etc. The NBA switched the Rules for the 2006 draft. Players had to be 19 years old and one year removed from high school. The players could play a year of college, a year over seas or simply take a year off before entering the draft. As luck would have it, the first year this rule was implemented, the Toronto Raptors had the #1 overall pick. Toronto missed out on drafting Kevin Durant or Greg Oden because of this new rule. Instead Toronto got stuck with Andrea Bargnani lol
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03-05-2016, 09:01 PM
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Can't see the NHLPA being too happy with this, that means some guys lose a full pro year in a very tight timeframe of an athletes career.
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03-05-2016, 09:06 PM
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The NHL tried this once before and were sued over it. I believe the court ruled that it was illegal age discrimination to keep 18-year-olds out of the draft.
As I recall, they tried to comply with the ruling by having some kind of deal where you could only draft 18-year-olds in the first three rounds, and the players had to specifically opt in. Of course all the 18-year-olds opted in, and the only result was to increase the amount of paperwork involved, so they scrapped the whole idea and went back to an 18-year-old draft.
I can't see the idea faring much better this time around.
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03-05-2016, 09:15 PM
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I don't see a big need for this. Unlike the NBA, where being drafted ends your amateur career for reasons I don't understand, drafted hockey players can still play junior or NCAA hockey.
It's only the very elite 18-year olds who play in the NHL, there's like what... Two? Maybe? Each season who make the jump, five or six in a really deep draft.
If there was the issue which NCAA basketball faced (and faces in the one-and-done era) of all the best players leaving I think this would be important. As it is, I don't think it's an issue.
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03-05-2016, 09:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOnlyBilko
Toronto missed out on drafting Greg Oden because of this new rule.
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Probably a good thing.
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03-05-2016, 09:33 PM
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If that happened, I wonder if more North American players might do what Matthews did this year, and go to Europe to earn a pay cheque in that year.
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03-05-2016, 09:53 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Can't see the NHLPA being too happy with this, that means some guys lose a full pro year in a very tight timeframe of an athletes career.
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I don't know. How many 18 year old players actually go North American pro every year? Doesn't seem like a lot. Maybe at most 10?
The NHLPA will probably easily concede this if they can get something else that helps a lot more of their members.
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03-05-2016, 10:59 PM
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I agree...I don't see how the NHLPA would be negatively impacted...they'd be protecting current members, as opposed to future ones...and with the salary cap, the union, as a whole, will still collect the same amount
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03-05-2016, 11:01 PM
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If this happens they should be allowed to assign players right from the draft to the AHL. 20 year olds playing in the CHL would be a waste.
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03-05-2016, 11:03 PM
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retroactive to last years draft? I'm all for it
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03-05-2016, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
If this happens they should be allowed to assign players right from the draft to the AHL. 20 year olds playing in the CHL would be a waste.
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They already can assign players right from the draft to the AHL. They just can't do it with CHL players aged 18 or 19. That's not because of a draft rule, but an agreement between the NHL and CHL.
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03-05-2016, 11:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
If that happened, I wonder if more North American players might do what Matthews did this year, and go to Europe to earn a pay cheque in that year.
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You could insitute an "exceptional player rule" where players like Matthews would be eligable for the draft as an 18 year old. That would eliminate such players going to Europe.
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