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Old 03-07-2016, 06:52 PM   #1
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Wondering if anybody knows this..........

In the Flyers-Tampa Bay game tonight, a Flyers player took a shot
that looked like it might have gone in (in the end it didn't), and the
announcers started speculating that "they'll have to look at that at
the next break", adding that anything that happens in the interim
would then get wiped out as if it never happened.

In the interim, the Flyers were signalled for a delayed hooking
penalty, at which time the announcer repeated that "even this
penalty will get wiped out if they go back and find that the puck
previously went in".

That's my understanding of the rule, but does that mean that
EVERYTHING that might happen would always be wiped out. Seems
like an invitation for a player who is 100% sure that the puck
previously went in to take a free (cheap) shot at an opposing
player if he knows it will "get wiped out because it never
really happened." Or even a straight up fight/brawl with game
misconducts and the like, all of that would get wiped out?
I'm wondering if there are exceptions for major penalties
or other severe circumstances.

I see people quoting the rulebook here often, so wonder if anybody
knows exactly how they handle that and if there are exceptions.
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:00 PM   #2
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Penalty would still be called/enforced.
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:03 PM   #4
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The announcer is wrong. Penalties assessed to the scoring team will still occur. If it was Tampa who had scored and Philly with the penalty, the penalty would've been wiped out as any penalty is that occurs when a goal is scored during a delayed penalty period.

Unless it's a major, of course.

So in short, no, cheap shots aren't suddenly easy to get away with. That would be crazy.
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Announcer is wrong. Penalties are irrespective of time played. Only goals and time would be wiped
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:07 PM   #6
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Wondering if anybody knows this..........

In the Flyers-Tampa Bay game tonight, a Flyers player took a shot that looked like it might have gone in (though it did not in the end). The announcers speculated that "they'll have to look at that at the next break". They also stated that anything that happens after the goal and until the next break in play would then get wiped out as if it never happened.

The Flyers were signalled for a delayed hooking penalty in that time. The announcer repeated "this penalty will get wiped out if they go back and find that the puck previously went in".

That's my understanding of the rule. My question is if that means EVERYTHING is wiped out. It seems like an invitation for a player who is 100% sure that there is an uncalled goal can take a cheap shot at an opposing
player as he knows his actions are erased as the clock gets reset. Furthermore, if a brawl with game misconducts occurs, does all of that would get wiped out?

I see people quoting the rulebook here often, so I was wonder if anybody knows exactly how they handle that and if there are exceptions.
Fixed the wording and formatting a little. I believe though that penalties are called even in the event of a goal being added during the next time stop.
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:25 PM   #7
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I could be mistaken, but I would think it would be as if team A scored (say Philly) and then during the stoppage in play (ie: during the celebrations) took a penalty. It would be scored as the penalty would be at the same time as the goal.

So let's say

Giroux scores at 12:34 but play continues, during the play Del Zotto takes a roughing penalty. They review the play and see that the goal was in, so it's scored at 12:34, and then Del Zotto would be assessed a roughing penalty at 12:34.

In similar fashion, if Giroux scored at 12:34 with play stopping as per normal, then on his way to celebrate the goal Del Zotto takes a cheap shot at Stamkos and gets called for a roughing minor. The Giroux goal would be scored at 12:34 as would Del Zotto's penalty.

What would be truly odd is if stoppage was due to a team flipping the puck over the glass in the defensive zone. Then I suppose the goal would be at 12:34 and a delay of game penalty at 12:34.

I wouldn't think the team the goal was scored upon would have the penalty wiped because it took place after the goal. Just as if Giroux scored and then Stamkos clocked him during his celebration.

I'd think the confusion comes from turning the clock back, but really I don't think that's a relevant factor.
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