Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-30-2015, 11:08 AM   #1
Armchair Quarterback
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Armchair Quarterback's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Saskatoon
Exp:
Default Mark Spector Book, "The Battle of Alberta"

This book just came out and I am wondering if anyone has bought/read it. Wanted to know if it was worth a read. I'm not the biggest fan of Spector but I do enjoy some good hockey history.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/s...still-matters/

Quote:
So I chose The Battle of Alberta, for two reasons. One, it was a fascinating, seminal time in hockey history, when the Edmonton Oilers and Calgary Flames represented the Clarence Campbell Conference in eight consecutive Stanley Cup finals. It encompassed the greatest players in the history of the game — Wayne Gretzky, Doug Gilmour, Mark Messier — in a time when the game was not nearly as structured or predictable as it is today. And secondly, a lot of, er, stuff happened in The Battle – and a lot of funny stuff.
__________________
"Two-liner!"
-Terry
Armchair Quarterback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2015, 11:14 AM   #2
Ashasx
Franchise Player
 
Ashasx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Exp:
Default

He probably proclaims the Oilers as the ultimate victors.
Ashasx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2015, 11:40 AM   #3
Textcritic
Acerbic Cyberbully
 
Textcritic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx View Post
He probably proclaims the Oilers as the ultimate victors.
I'm not really a fan of Spector, but from what I understand he has loaded it with stories drawn directly from interviews with players from both teams. That alone should make it worth the read.
__________________
Dealing with Everything from Dead Sea Scrolls to Red C Trolls

Quote:
Originally Posted by woob
"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
"The Lying Pen of Scribes" Ancient Manuscript Forgeries Project
Textcritic is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Textcritic For This Useful Post:
Old 10-30-2015, 04:03 PM   #4
Resolute 14
In the Sin Bin
 
Resolute 14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx View Post
He probably proclaims the Oilers as the ultimate victors.
This is what concerns me. I will probably pick it up anyway, but given it's Spector, it's hard not to expect the book will be slanted.
Resolute 14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2015, 04:08 PM   #5
calgaryblood
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
Exp:
Default

Well this explains all the rumours he's talked about in the last few months. Wanted to get his name out there...
calgaryblood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2015, 11:35 PM   #6
KenHouston
Crash and Bang Winger
 
KenHouston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Exp:
Default

In all truth it will be slanted.....5 cups versus 1 as it should be.
KenHouston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2015, 11:39 PM   #7
Ashasx
Franchise Player
 
Ashasx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Exp:
Default

one has also picked 1st overall four times in six seasons
Ashasx is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ashasx For This Useful Post:
Old 10-30-2015, 11:47 PM   #8
N-E-B
Franchise Player
 
N-E-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

As much as I love spanking the Oilers, it would be nice to argue over who's the better team and not who sucks the least for once in my life. Born in the early 90's so my earliest memories of the Flames are the Young Guns era and I missed out on the glory days.

That said, I will have no complaints if the Oilers suck forever.
N-E-B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2015, 08:33 AM   #9
Steve Bozek
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: May 2006
Exp:
Default

it'll obviously have an Oilers slant, given where he comes from, but he would have to make it palatable to Flames fans if he wanted to sell any copies here. In an interview on Fan960, he had a lot of good things to say about the Flames players he interviewed, and I particularly liked the point he made about the '86 Flames playoff victory - it was unfair that the series is known for the Steve Smith goal on his own net, because the Flames outplayed the Oilers in that series and deserved to win.
Steve Bozek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2015, 10:57 AM   #10
VANFLAMESFAN
Franchise Player
 
VANFLAMESFAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx View Post
He probably proclaims the Oilers as the ultimate victors.
Pretty sure the oilers have a slightly better history than the flames.
VANFLAMESFAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2015, 12:20 PM   #11
Reaper
Franchise Player
 
Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: I'm right behind you
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN View Post
Pretty sure the oilers have a slightly better history than the flames.
Same record for each team: 1 Stanley Cup without Wayne Gretzky on the team.
__________________
Don't fear me. Trust me.
Reaper is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Reaper For This Useful Post:
Old 10-31-2015, 04:51 PM   #12
Fire of the Phoenix
#1 Goaltender
 
Fire of the Phoenix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper View Post
Same record for each team: 1 Stanley Cup without Wayne Gretzky on the team.
That's the way I look at it too. In some alternate universe, the Winnipeg Jets got Wayne Gretzky and won themselves multiple Stanley Cups instead. He was that good. It's no coincidence that the Oilers haven't had a winning season since Gretzky left.
Fire of the Phoenix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2015, 04:57 PM   #13
transplant99
Fearmongerer
 
transplant99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
Exp:
Default

I'm quite looking forward to this book.

regardless of how one feels about Spector, he is a decent writer. On top of that it is a whole lot of interviews with the participants of that era and associated stories. The intro was done by Theo as an example.

For me there has never ever been an era of hockey that touched it and I doubt there ever will be again.
transplant99 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to transplant99 For This Useful Post:
Old 11-01-2015, 07:30 AM   #14
McG
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elbows Up!!
Exp:
Default

since it is only in the last 6 months that we have even seen one of the biggest oiler homers make an effort at balance, I can imagine the tone of the book.

put another way, if I cut two of the legs on a table by 12 inches each, it would be more balanced than the author.
__________________
Franchise > Team > Player

Future historians will celebrate June 24, 2024 as the date when the timeline corrected itself.
McG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 08:49 AM   #15
HotHotHeat
Franchise Player
 
HotHotHeat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
Exp:
Default

That balanced tone took a nose dive last night on Twitter during the game.

It actually makes him even more slimy trying to look impartial just to sells books.

Spector will always be Spector. No good.
HotHotHeat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 09:03 AM   #16
mikeecho
Powerplay Quarterback
 
mikeecho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by McG View Post
since it is only in the last 6 months that we have even seen one of the biggest oiler homers make an effort at balance, I can imagine the tone of the book.

put another way, if I cut two of the legs on a table by 12 inches each, it would be more balanced than the author.
No coincidence the balance started around the time he was knee deep in writing a book about the Oilers and Flames and likely getting advice from his publisher to positively engage 1/2 of the potential purchasing target.
mikeecho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 09:46 AM   #17
Matty81
Franchise Player
 
Matty81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Exp:
Default

It's too bad it wasn't written by a decent journalist like Duha.

The homer has a front page article on sportsnet trolling flames fans this morning that almost exclusively talks about how lucky the flames were last night because of the bad goal the Oilers let in and last year based on advanced stats.

On the one hand saying the flames were lucky to win last year with bad advanced stats.

On the other saying the oilers were unlucky to lose last night despite getting pummeled in advanced stats.

I'd rather spend a week in an isolation chamber with Donald Trump than buy and read a book by that turd.
Matty81 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Matty81 For This Useful Post:
Old 11-01-2015, 10:10 AM   #18
blender
First Line Centre
 
blender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty81 View Post
It's too bad it wasn't written by a decent journalist like Duha.

The homer has a front page article on sportsnet trolling flames fans this morning that almost exclusively talks about how lucky the flames were last night because of the bad goal the Oilers let in and last year based on advanced stats.

On the one hand saying the flames were lucky to win last year with bad advanced stats.

On the other saying the oilers were unlucky to lose last night despite getting pummeled in advanced stats.

I'd rather spend a week in an isolation chamber with Donald Trump than buy and read a book by that turd.
Not sure what article you read. He specifically says that the Oilers didn't deserve to win, and that the Flames got lucky bounces, which is 100% true. That was about as even-handed a write-up on a game featuring too not-too-good hockey teams. Flames were lucky to win; Oilers would have been lucky to win had it gone the other way.
blender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 10:19 AM   #19
sa226
#1 Goaltender
 
sa226's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Back in Calgary!!
Exp:
Default

^^^^^

Not to beat this dead horse but it was a classic Spector article. Bait the reader with a bit of a sensational headline (That kind of contradicts his closing remarks). Write the first half like a butthurt 12 year old Oilers fan, and then wrap it up with some pretty good, even keeled sports journalism that actually tells it like it was.
sa226 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2015, 10:41 AM   #20
CliffFletcher
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2006
Exp:
Default

Journalists don't write their own headlines, editors write them.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze View Post
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
CliffFletcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:41 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy