Ramo vs Hiller vs Ortio: The Debate

[CMPunk]

Since the trade thread has degenerated into a goalie thread, why not start a new one to talk about the ongoing debate on who to keep.

I vote Hiller/Ortio

[Moneyhands23]

I think we should call up another goalie and keep 4 with the team...just in case

[Samonadreau]

Trade Ramo and Hiller for Scrivens and Fasth.

[Conroy4Mayor]

I think the only goalie that has any trade value is Ortio (yes, even if they retained 50% salary on Hiller or Ramo). I like the guy, but if Treliving wants to trade his way out of this three-goalie mess, it'll probably have to be Ortio.

Of course in hindsight, the best thing to do would have been to let Ramo go to free agency. As the old saying goes, Treliving made the bed, now he has to sleep in it.

On the bright side, Ortio should provide a decent return, and we do have a couple of other good goalies coming up through the pipeline. I think Gillies provides the best shot at a true #1 anyway.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Trade Ramo and Hiller for Scrivens and Fasth.

Scrivezina amirite?

[HelloHockeyFans]

Keep Ramo and Ortio, trade Hiller for a 3rd.

[Buck Murdock]

Send one down...last year with injuries, having 3 goalies was very helpful.

[Finger Cookin]

Wasn't there a poll less than a month ago where everyone overwhelmingly chose to keep Ortio, and believed Hiller was the most likely to be moved/most desirable for other teams/worst candidate to keep?

Has anything changed since then?

EDIT: Here it is. Not even two weeks old.

Seriously, has anything changed at all since then to sway a lot of people one way or the other?

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Wasn't there a poll less than a month ago where everyone overwhelmingly chose to keep Ortio, and believed Hiller was the most likely to be moved/most desirable for other teams/worst candidate to keep?

Has anything changed since then?

EDIT: Here it is. Not even two weeks old.

Seriously, has anything changed at all since then to sway a lot of people one way or the other?

Guess this is whatdya figure 2.0

Edit: we were making a mess of the trade rumours thread.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Scrivezina amirite?

Dubnyk 2.0........

[CroFlames]

Tuuka Rask & Ortio after the Bruins blow it up for a rebuild.

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Wasn't there a poll less than a month ago where everyone overwhelmingly chose to keep Ortio, and believed Hiller was the most likely to be moved/most desirable for other teams/worst candidate to keep?

Has anything changed since then?

EDIT: Here it is. Not even two weeks old.

Seriously, has anything changed at all since then to sway a lot of people one way or the other?

Well it seems like since Hiller won the last game, the Hiller fans have come out of the wood work.

[Conroy4Mayor]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Wasn't there a poll less than a month ago where everyone overwhelmingly chose to keep Ortio, and believed Hiller was the most likely to be moved/most desirable for other teams/worst candidate to keep?

Has anything changed since then?

EDIT: Here it is. Not even two weeks old.

Seriously, has anything changed at all since then to sway a lot of people one way or the other?

I think that poll was asking what we thought was the ideal tandem, if we could choose. I think this debate is now pondering the reality that no team is calling and asking for Hiller. Hence the need for a plan B.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

Well it seems like since Hiller won the last game, the Hiller fans have come out of the wood work.

That's how things tend to go when players play well, or players play poorly. People with a view of a player that corresponds to the player's recent play tend to get more vocal.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Youngster syndrome that is pretty prevalent on this matter as it is for many Flames fans on lots of issues. The overwhelming desire that the younger option also be the best option (because it's the best outcome for the team if it's the truth) just takes over peoples opinions and beliefs. We want Ortio to be the better of the three that we just look for anything that we can use as evidence to convince ourselves it's true. But really it's more hope than actual evidence.

This is such a tough one. Two veterans that as a combo were good enough to help a young team win a round of playoffs, yet still were inconsistent and haven't sold us or the coaches yet. And one young guy who's played well at the NHL level, and not well, and even at the AHL level has both been lights out and struggled in recent enough times.

I have no idea what they should do. I think we should all be hoping that Ortio somehow earns the net and proves he can be a solid starter for this club, that would be optimal. As it sits now, I think it's tough to suggest anything other than Hiller likely being your "safest" option, but is that good enough?

[Inferno]

Trade Ramo

Hiller might get more but unless Ortio tears it up this season and takes over the starting position I'm much more comfortable with the two.

[Phanuthier]

I'm kind of surprised this wasn't stuffed into the Ramo re-signed thread...

[JohnnyB]

Who gets the start next game? is it Ortio's turn or does Hiller play until he loses?

[flambers]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Who gets the start next game? is it Ortio's turn or does Hiller play until he loses?

I would bet, its Hiller's until the team loses.

Ortio will be in the press box.

[Strange Brew]

Once Hiller has a bad game, who gets the next start?