06-08-2015, 02:42 AM
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Ontario Sex Ed controversy?
Got wind of this in Iceland's news, painting it as a backwards protest against proper sex education of children and teens.
I managed to find a few things on this like the website of those opposed to the changes: http://parentsalliance.ca/ , and an article countering which seems to be a lot of myths and fear mongering on their behalf:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015...urriculum.html
Be curious as to hear from any of you more familiar with this.
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06-08-2015, 03:16 AM
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Lol u said sex
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06-08-2015, 03:28 AM
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teehee
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06-08-2015, 05:45 AM
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Don't you bee teachin ma younguns bout no homos and mashturbashion! They done learn dat from there cuzzins!
Now leaf me alone while I watched Arnie kill 1000 commies wit da kids.
Last edited by Cheese; 06-08-2015 at 05:49 AM.
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06-08-2015, 06:31 AM
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Wow. Have any of you looked at this ( http://parentsalliance.ca/comments/whysayno)?
Some highlights from the Parents Alliance of Ontario for Better Education:
Parents Alliance of Ontario has been collecting and summarizing complaints from parents and professionals since the release of 2015 HPE curriculum.
They Say NO because of the inappropriate and incomplete materials found within the curriculum. We listed some of them below:
Say No to age inappropriateness and explicit sexual ideology
It Introduces sexual concepts and ideologies that children cannot understand physically and psychologically, and cannot make proper decision independently.
1.1 Grd 4 9 yrs P141, imposes kids to develop intimate relationship.
Teacher prompt:“What can change socially as you start to develop physically?”
Student: “Relationships with friends can change, because sometimes people start being interested in different things at different times. Some people start ‘liking’ others. They want to be more than ‘just friends’ and become interested in going out. Sometimes people treat you as if you are older than you actually are because of how you look. Sometimes classmates, friends, or family make comments or tease you about the changes.” ...
1.2 Grd 5 10 yrs P157, starts to teach intercourse with graphical descriptions.
Teacher:“The testicles are glands within the scrotum that produce sperm and hormones,
beginning at puberty. After sperm develops in the testicles, it can travel through the epididymis until it reaches the vas deferens where it is stored until ejaculation occurs. During ejaculation, the prostate gland releases a liquid that mixes with the sperm from the vas deferens to make semen, which then leaves the body through the urethra. Fertilization can occur when the penis is in the vagina, sperm is ejaculated, and the sperm and egg connect. Babies can also be conceived by having the sperm and egg connect using assisted reproductive technologies. What is the purpose of sperm production?” ...
1.3 Grd 6 11 yrs P175 describes masturbating in a misleading way for kids
Teacher prompt:“Things like wet dreams or vaginal lubrication are normal and happen as a result of physical changes with puberty. Exploring one’s body by touching or masturbating is something that many people do and find pleasurable. It is common and is not harmful and is one way of learning about your body.” ...
Say No to the disrespect to Multi-Cultures!
4.1 Grd 3 P124 requires kids respect "two mother / two father families" but fails to respect their family traditions.
C3.3 describe how visible differences (e.g., skin, hair, and eye colour, facial features, body size and shape, physical aids or different physical abilities, clothing, possessions)and invisible differences (e.g., learning abilities, skills and talents, personal or cultural values and beliefs, gender identity, sexual orientation, family background, personal preferences, allergies and sensitivities) make each person unique, and identify ways of showing respect for differences in others [PS, IS]
Teacher prompt: “Sometimes we are different in ways you can see. Sometimes we are different in ways you cannot see – such as how we learn, what we think, and what we are able to do. Give me some examples of things that make each person unique.”
Student:“We all come from different families. Some students live with two parents. Some live with one parent. Some have two mothers or two fathers. Some live with grandparents or with caregivers. We may come from different cultures. We also have different talents and abilities and different things that we find difficult to do.”
Teacher:“How can you be a role model and show respect for differences in other people?”
Student:“I can include others in what I am doing, invite them to join a group, be willing to be a partner with anyone for an activity, and be willing to learn about others.”
...God forbid we should admit that masturbation is pleasurable and that we should be willing to accept social and cultural differences in others.
This is potentially also interesting:
Say No to the convicted pedophile Ben Levin behind the scene!
The curriculum was made under supervision of Ben Levin, who was convicted for multiple pedophile crimes. As the materials in this curriculum are showing very strong age inappropriateness and pedophile spirits, the public have the ground to require further investigations about what is Ben's role in compiling this curriculum.
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06-08-2015, 06:34 AM
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I guess you have to fight for your right to be ignorant these days.
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06-08-2015, 06:38 AM
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God of Hating Twitter
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Also fight for your right to party.
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06-08-2015, 06:41 AM
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When I was a kid Sex Ed was learned during the walk to school and in the baseball park after school.
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06-08-2015, 06:47 AM
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I prefer the traditional wait until marriage and getting the fathers permission:
NSFW!!!
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06-08-2015, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Thor
I prefer the traditional wait until marriage and getting the fathers permission:
NSFW!!!
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Cartoon is wrong. The word "right" should appear between "her" and "in".
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06-08-2015, 08:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor
to find a few things on this like the website of those opposed to the changes: http://parentsalliance.ca/ , and an article countering which seems to be a lot of myths and fear mongering on their behalf:
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http://parentsalliance.ca/node/29
500 Parents Successfully Disrupted the Brain-Washing Info Session by the Provincial Government
just terrible
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06-08-2015, 08:28 AM
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Six years old does seem kind of young to start sex ed, but the information age has kind of changed the way that we have to look at these things. My 7 year old niece was singing an Iggy Izalea song a while back and I don't suspect that her exposure to sexually charged media and art is isolated. Anything they teach them in school will probably be tame in comparison.
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06-08-2015, 08:49 AM
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This sex ed is the model they are using in most of the Nordic nations, where you have some of the lowest pregnancy and STD rates in the western world.
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06-08-2015, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Six years old does seem kind of young to start sex ed, but the information age has kind of changed the way that we have to look at these things. My 7 year old niece was singing an Iggy Izalea song a while back and I don't suspect that her exposure to sexually charged media and art is isolated. Anything they teach them in school will probably be tame in comparison.
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The Dutch approach to sex ed has garnered international attention, largely because the Netherlands boasts some of the best outcomes when it comes to teen sexual health. On average, teens in the Netherlands do not have sex at an earlier age than those in other European countries or in the United States. Researchers found that among 12 to 25 year olds in the Netherlands, most say they had “wanted and fun” first sexual experiences. By comparison, 66 percent of sexually active American teens surveyed said they wished that they had waited longer to have sex for the first time. When they do have sex, a Rutgers WPF study found that nine out of ten Dutch adolescents used contraceptives the first time, and World Health Organization data shows that Dutch teens are among the top users of the birth control pill. According to the World Bank, the teen pregnancy rate in the Netherlands is one of the lowest in the world, five times lower than the U.S. Rates of HIV infection and sexually transmitted diseases are also low.
“We have to help young people navigate all the choices they face and stand up for themselves in all situations, sexual and otherwise,”
There are multiple factors that likely contribute to these numbers. Easy access to contraception is one. Condoms, for example, are available in vending machines, and the birth control pill is free for anyone under age 21. But there’s also a growing body of research that specifically credits comprehensive sexuality education. A recent study from Georgetown University shows that starting sex ed in primary school helps avoid unintended pregnancies, maternal deaths, unsafe abortions and STDs.
Proponents of the Dutch model argue that their approach extends beyond those risks. Their brand of sex ed reflects a broader emphasis on young people’s rights, responsibility and respect that many public health experts say is the foundation of sexual health.
A 2008 United Nations report found that comprehensive sex ed, when taught effectively, allows young people to “explore their attitudes and values, and to practice the decision-making and other life skills they will need to be able to make informed choices about their sexual lives.” Students who had completed comprehensive sex education in the Netherlands were also found to be more assertive and better communicators, according to an independent health research agency that conducted a study of the Dutch programs.
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06-08-2015, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Six years old does seem kind of young to start sex ed, but the information age has kind of changed the way that we have to look at these things. My 7 year old niece was singing an Iggy Izalea song a while back and I don't suspect that her exposure to sexually charged media and art is isolated. Anything they teach them in school will probably be tame in comparison.
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If you read the actual Ontario curriculum you will discover that "sex ed" for six-year-olds consists of promoting good hygiene and body care, and introducing/reinforcing the use of correct terminology in identifying body parts, and ensuring that they are spoken of respectfully.
From C 1.3 in the curriculum:
Teacher prompt: "We talk about all body parts with respect. Why is it important to know about your own body, and use correct names for the parts of your body?"
Student: "All parts of my body are a part of me, and I need to know how to take care of and talk about my own body. If I’m hurt or need help, and I know the right words, other people will know what I’m talking about."
That's just good, practical information and empowerment that we should be providing our kids at home from an early age.
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06-08-2015, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
If you read the actual Ontario curriculum you will discover that "sex ed" for six-year-olds consists of promoting good hygiene and body care, and introducing/reinforcing the use of correct terminology in identifying body parts, and ensuring that they are spoken of respectfully.
From C 1.3 in the curriculum:
Teacher prompt: "We talk about all body parts with respect. Why is it important to know about your own body, and use correct names for the parts of your body?"
Student: "All parts of my body are a part of me, and I need to know how to take care of and talk about my own body. If I’m hurt or need help, and I know the right words, other people will know what I’m talking about."
That's just good, practical information and empowerment that we should be providing our kids at home from an early age.
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It would be silly if that's one of the points of controversy. My son is in Grade 1 in a Catholic school and he's been learning that sort of stuff, and knows about private parts and not letting others touch them inappropriately.
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06-08-2015, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheese
Don't you bee teachin ma younguns bout no homos and mashturbashion! They done learn dat from there cuzzins!
Now leaf me alone while I watched Arnie kill 1000 commies wit da kids.
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Ontario is such a backwater redneck haven eh? Golly gee.
All that snow they had this winter too! Wouldn't move out that way for the world, no sir.
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06-08-2015, 10:18 AM
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The Muslim community in Ontario at least are doing themselves no favors in regards to their image with the Canadian public when they spearhead ignorant protests like these. We get enough news from the US bible belt about how backwards their sex education system is that there is no way we would ever move to a more conservative "sex is evil" approach, so all the protestors are doing is hurting themselves by looking like an angry, uneducated religious mob
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06-08-2015, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ashartus
It would be silly if that's one of the points of controversy. My son is in Grade 1 in a Catholic school and he's been learning that sort of stuff, and knows about private parts and not letting others touch them inappropriately.
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As I understand it, the complaint is that instruction takes place for young children about body identification including genitalia, but then without crucial instruction about inappropriate touching. This is a problem, but I would think it is also a fairly easily correctable one within the existing curriculum.
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