[News] Bouma, Byron, and Jooris and 20 other players file for Salary Arbitration

[sureLoss]

http://www.nhlpa.com/news/2015-salary-arbitration-dates

TORONTO (July 5, 2015) – Twenty-three players have elected Salary Arbitration:
NOTE: * signifies settlement

PLAYER ELECTED FILINGS
Arizona Coyotes
Mikkel Boedker *
Phil Samuelsson - July 21, 2015
Brendan Shinnimin- July 20, 2015

Buffalo Sabres
Phil Varone - July 27, 2015*

Calgary Flames
Lance Bouma - July 22, 2015
Paul Byron - July 30, 2015
Josh Jooris - July 28, 2015

Colorado Avalanche
Andrew Agozzino - July 20, 2015
Mathew Clark - July 22, 2015

Detroit Red Wings
Gustav Nyquist *

Minnesota Wild
Erik Haula - July 31, 2015

Nashville Predators
Craig Smith - July 20, 2015
Colin Wilson - July 28, 2015

New Jersey Devils
Eric Gélinas - July 21, 2015
Adam Larsson - July 29, 2015

New York Rangers
Derek Stepan - July 27, 2015

Ottawa Senators
Alex Chiasson - July 23, 2015
Mike Hoffman - July 30, 2015

Philadelphia Flyers
Michael Del Zotto - July 21, 2015

St. Louis Blues
Magnus Paajarvi *

Toronto Maple Leafs
Taylor Beck - July 24, 2015 *

Washington Capitals
Braden Holtby - July 23, 2015
Marcus Johansson - July 29, 2015

CLUB ELECTED FILINGS
Edmonton Oilers
Justin Schultz - July 24, 2015

Toronto Maple Leafs
Jonathan Bernier - July 31, 2015

[Ashasx]

Have to think BT really wants to get Bouma done before arbitration. Things could get ugly otherwise.

[The Original FFIV]

Gives us a second buyout window. If no one is showing interest in Raymond by the hearings, gives us the option to buy him out and alleviate the logjam up front.

[Poe969]

Let Byron walk. Let's hope things get ugly with some of these other players from other teams. Some good names on that list...

Boums and jooris desere contracts.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Gives us a second buyout window. If no one is showing interest in Raymond by the hearings, gives us the option to buy him out and alleviate the logjam up front.

And take a 4 year cap penalty? No.

We have space this season. If it really gets bad, we'd buy him out next off season.

[underGRADFlame]

I guess sureLoss's server is fixed... welcome back.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Have to think BT really wants to get Bouma done before arbitration. Things could get ugly otherwise.

No doubt.

I do think it will get done though. BT obviously is a tough negotiator and this is merely one of the only pressure tactics the player has in this case.

Bouma coming off a tremendous season like he is, will want to get paid for it. The team needs to hold to a salary structure that allows them to hold on to many players in the next few years so they will want to go low on him. If it does get to arb., then it sets a dollar amount and the team decides if they want to match or not (they will as they can afford anything awarded this year and next) and then try and work a long term contract or deal him away.

Bouma is likely looking for 2.5 a year or better and the team is likely at 1.5 or so.

[sureLoss]

Wouldn't be too concerned yet as this just pretty much guarantees a NHL contract for all 3 next season and kind of puts a deadline on a deal between the two sides to get done.

IF they do go to arbitration, the Flames will elect a choice of 1 or 2 year deal before arbitration begins.

Since all 3 will most likely get less than $3.5 million in award (the actual limit is $3.5 million + an increase based on how much average salary has increased the past two years), the Flames will not be able to walk away from the Arbitrator award.

They can however trade the player and as noted a 2nd buyout window will open for the Flames.

[dammage79]

I really only care about Bouma. Jooris was a nice story at the beginning of the year but really leveled off towards the end. You could say the wrist injury was a big factor but He's not on a Bouma level of importance to the Flames.

I never really thought Byron would be back. So this may seal his fate.

[foofighter15]

Can we just not resign Byron please? Too small and can't score on a breakaway to save his life

[CaptainCrunch]

I don't think this was a great idea for Jooris. With the Flames depth, chances are they'll just walk away from any arbitrators decision.

Same with PB

[GGG]

Even if Bouma goes to arbitration it works out well for the flames. The flames elect 1 yr the number between 1.5 and 3 the arbiter comes back with doesn't hurt us too badly.

Worst case is Bouma's play drops off after getting a 2 mil + arbiter award and we can't justify qualifying him and have to get a deal done before the qualifying deadline next year. But if he drops off that much his value to other teams won't be there.

Best case he meets or exceeds this years production and it's not a fluke and we sign him to a nice 3 yr deal at the end of next season.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I don't think this was a great idea for Jooris. With the Flames depth, chances are they'll just walk away from any arbitrators decision.

Same with PB

Flames can't walk away if the decision is under about 3.5 mil. The flames qualifying them assured them of contracts for next year.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I don't think this was a great idea for Jooris. With the Flames depth, chances are they'll just walk away from any arbitrators decision.

Same with PB

They can't walk away

[killer_carlson]

what is the 2nd buy out window?

Not heard of that before.

[oldschoolcalgary]

hope the Bouma contact negotiation doesn't take long...

Jooris and Byron are decidedly meh imo... i'd be nice to sign them, but i wouldn't be the end of the world if we didn't, as it seemed like we had number of guys who would step in and fill their spots without much of a drop off...

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

They can't walk away

They surely can. NHL teams have the ability to walk away in Player-Elected Salary Arbitrations.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

what is the 2nd buy out window?

Not heard of that before.

http://www.silversevensens.com/2015/...efresher-guide

The second is a window related to arbitration, and it carries some extra restrictions. For this window to open, the team has to have gone to arbitration. This window opens on the third day after the team's last arbitration is concluded and is open for 48 hours. There are also restrictions on which players can be bought out - First, the player has to have been on the reserve list as of the last trade deadline (so no buying out that off-season signing you regret until the next trade deadline). Second, there is a minimum cap value for a contract to be eligible for this - $2.75m AAV initially, but the value goes up based on the average league salary each year. The notable absence in those restrictions is that it has nothing to do with who went to arbitration, any player who meets those two restrictions can be bought out. Since this takes place after July 1st it could theoretically allow a team to buy out a new contract that they already regret as long as that player was on the roster at the previous trade deadline, though the CBA is not clear on that potential loophole. There's one last catch, though - this can only be done three times. Not three times per year - three times over the entire length of the current CBA.

The one exception to this extra window is when the only arbitration case is team-elected, and that player earned more than $1,750,000 (in 2013 dollars - it's adjusted up based on league average salary) in the previous season. In that specific case, the window does not open.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

They surely can. NHL teams have the ability to walk away in Player-Elected Salary Arbitrations.

only if the salary awarded is higher than 3.5 million, otherwise they can't:

If a player elects arbitration, the club may actually choose to walk away from the award and make the player an unrestricted free agent under certain circumstances. For one, the arbitration award has to be $3.5M per year or more. As with every other number like this, the $3.5M figure will index annually at the same percentage as the League Average Salary changes.

If it's a one-year election, the player becomes an unrestricted free agent immediately. If it's a two-year election, then the walk-away actually turns that into a one-year contract at the end of which the player becomes a UFA.

As long as the club has a walk-away right, they have 48 hours after the end of all their arbitration hearings to elect to walk away from a player. The amount of walk-aways a team may carry out in one year depends on how many players take them to arbitration.

http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/201...tion-boolsheet

[Finger Cookin]

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