Is this even legal? Disabled man denied housing subsidy.... because he's not Muslim.
This is absolutely infuriating. We view this country as a melting pot, and welcome pretty much anyone, from anywhere in the world of any beliefs or religion. Yet it's OK to create segregated communities, that discriminate against the disabled, citing religious preference? This is not a version of multiculturalism I support in any way shape or form.
I fully understand that many of the residents of this complex may be born and raised Canadian Muslims, however, I would bet everything I have, each and every one of them, would create a massive fuss, should they be declined ANYTHING in this country because of their beliefs. This is so hypocritically insane, it almost seems like an Onion article.
It appears to be contrary to the Human Rights Act, yeah... his mom is really annoying, though.
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God, could you imagine the backlash if there was housing that denied someone because they weren't white, or Christian?
Well, the thing is, you're not supposed to discriminate on the basis of age, either, but there is frequent accommodation discrimination on that basis that everyone seems to have agreed is justifiable. So it's not black and white (sorry for pun)
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Yeah, someone would probably start a thread and we'd discuss. Completely different than what we're doing right now, eh?
It is a somewhat valid point he is making though. If this were the other way around, it would be immediately labelled as racism. This is really no different in my eyes, but the second anyone suggests that racism against whites or Christians exist, they are ridiculed into oblivion. It is that type of thinking that is allowing policies like this to exist.
It is a somewhat valid point he is making though. If this were the other way around, it would be immediately labelled as racism. This is really no different in my eyes, but the second anyone suggests that racism against whites or Christians exist, they are ridiculed into oblivion. It is that type of thinking that is allowing policies like this to exist.
Racism is applicable to everyone.
The argument isn't that racism against white or Christians is non-existent. The argument is that, in our society, the effects of any such racism are pretty much negligible and not systemic.
The argument isn't that racism against white or Christians is non-existent. The argument is that, in our society, the effects of any such racism are pretty much negligible and not systemic.
I agree to a point, however, here we have a disabled man, that could desperately use an affordable place to live, and is being declined because of he chose to follow the wrong imaginary sky man.
I agree to a point, however, here we have a disabled man, that could desperately use an affordable place to live, and is being declined because of he chose to follow the wrong imaginary sky man.
I wouldn't call that negligible.
The fact that it is so surprising that this occurred and is being described as if it's something out of Bizarro world probably constitutes a counter-argument.
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I agree to a point, however, here we have a disabled man, that could desperately use an affordable place to live, and is being declined because of he chose to follow the wrong imaginary sky man.
I wouldn't call that negligible.
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No even a little bit is not acceptable. It's never negligible.
Right. I generally agree with this statement. I think the reason you see people scoff at racism against whites is because we have a bad habit of bringing it up at inappropriate times, often in cases to dismiss more severe instances of racism experienced by minorities.
This is obviously an exception to the rule and I hope he gets some form of justice.
Right. I generally agree with this statement. I think the reason you see people scoff at racism against whites is because we have a bad habit of bringing it up at inappropriate times, often in cases to dismiss more severe instances of racism experienced by minorities.
This is obviously an exception to the rule and I hope he gets some form of justice.
LOL, he won't.
He and anyone that pursued it, would just be labelled as a racist if they tried.
He and anyone that pursued it, would just be labelled as a racist if they tried.
And this is the other sentiment that gets white people mocked. You have no idea what would happen, but you've already made up your mind and decided what the outcome will be.
It's the city of Toronto that has endorsed this practice, and he is not being discriminated against because he is disabled. It's because he isn't Muslim.
It's crazy that Toronto city council allows publicly subsidized housing to be ethic or religiously discriminatory if certain conditions are met. This is terrible public policy even if you ignore the discriminatory nature of it.
It's sounds like Toronto has quite a few of theses housing arrangements across a variety of religions and ethnic groups.
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It's the city of Toronto that has endorsed this practice, and he is not being discriminated against because he is disabled. It's because he isn't Muslim.
It's crazy that Toronto city council allows publicly subsidized housing to be ethic or religiously discriminatory if certain conditions are met. This is terrible public policy even if you ignore the discriminatory nature of it.
It's sounds like Toronto has quite a few of theses housing arrangements across a variety of religions and ethnic groups.
Well then I retract my previous statement. That's a whole bunch of bull####.
And this is the other sentiment that gets white people mocked. You have no idea what would happen, but you've already made up your mind and decided what the outcome will be.
If it was me in his position, I would absolutely take the high road, and live in the street if I had to. There is no guarantee it would make his life already more challenging than it is, but the odds are good enough it would, that I wouldn't take the risk of challenging it.
This isn't subsidized housing, it's a co-op that is run privately and rents out many rooms under market rate as essentially charity. How it works is people can qualify for a subsidy directly and pay the co-op every month. This is different from government run subsidized housing, these co-ops work with government as opposed to being run by government.
My wife used to work for city of Toronto and help administer some of this stuff, there are a ton of these across the city and were allowed because government wouldn't fund subsided housing so community groups wanted them for there own people. You wouldn't have these co-ops if you didn't have it for your own people. Pick your poison, lack of affordable housing or affordable housing with contingencies.
In Toronto you have similar co-ops for Muslims, Jewish, Lutheran, catholic, Haitian, Greek, Italian, italian seniors. Each board controls who they allow in, and most if not all are run as charities - any profit is turned back into improving building or lowering rent. This building for example installed solar panals 2 years ago with the profit it had earned, plus my wife thinks some federal government money.
If a Muslim non profit built it specifically for Muslims what's wrong with that? I'm an odd fellow and on the board of our housing society, we give preference to our lodge brothers and their families, as we built and administer the housing why shouldn't we?
Is this even legal? Disabled man denied housing subsidy.... because he's not Muslim.
