ESPN parting with Bill Simmons

[rubecube]

Surprised this hasn't been posted yet. Not too hard to believe with the way ESPN has become a propaganda wing for the NFL.

http://deadspin.com/why-espn-fired-b...ons-1703103609

[CofR]

Say what you will about Simmons, personally I really like him, but it's pretty clear this is stemming from Simmons being so critical of the NFL, ESPN acting as Goddell's puppet.

[flames_fan_down_under]

I understand being critical of your employer but do it behind closed doors, don't air your dirty laundry in public, its in poor taste IMO. Especially if the employer is paying the employee 5 million dollars a year.

[d_phaneuf]

ya I kind of side with ESPN on this, and I like Simmons (also think he will be able to be more free wherever hires him next)

he causes headaches for the company, and Grantland has been a financial disaster, from what most places which track online views show he is the only writer they have with a good following

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

I understand being critical of your employer but do it behind closed doors, don't air your dirty laundry in public, its in poor taste IMO. Especially if the employer is paying the employee 5 million dollars a year.

While I'm all for that approach normally as well, there are also times where a company needs that public shelling for things to be exposed. ESPN's love for propagandizing the NFL has been ridiculous. In this case Simmons was as right as could be in his critique of his station. Especially when his hand was slapped for ripping Goodell (who himself was left untouched when he was clearly screwing around). Hopefully Simmonds goes to a rival and steals ratings.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by fleury

While I'm all for that approach normally as well, there are also times where a company needs that public shelling for things to be exposed. ESPN's love for propagandizing the NFL has been ridiculous. In this case Simmons was as right as could be in his critique of his station. Especially when his hand was slapped for ripping Goodell (who himself was left untouched when he was clearly screwing around). Hopefully Simmonds goes to a rival and steals ratings.

Whenever this happens to an ESPN guy you always hear this, but seldom ever hear the persons name again.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by fleury

While I'm all for that approach normally as well, there are also times where a company needs that public shelling for things to be exposed. ESPN's love for propagandizing the NFL has been ridiculous. In this case Simmons was as right as could be in his critique of his station. Especially when his hand was slapped for ripping Goodell (who himself was left untouched when he was clearly screwing around). Hopefully Simmonds goes to a rival and steals ratings.

he got suspended for calling out his bosses, not the NFL

he's criticized the NFL and Goodell plenty, but when you dare your bosses to suspend you, it's a dumb thing to do

[Keselke]

At this point Simmons has built his own brand, he no longer need a platform like espn to be successful.

So I am guessing this means that Grantland will no longer be featured on espn?

[d_phaneuf]

ESPN owns grantland its theirs not his

[Keselke]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

ESPN owns grantland its theirs not his

Interesting, however I think despire espn claims, grantland will not continue in the fashion that it currently is. Guessing Simmons just goes and does his own thing, the publisher david cho has already left grantland in the wake of this news.....then again maybe it just stays status quo, or a larger shift to Five Thirty Eight

Any news on when he will stop performing any of his regular duties for espn like the basketball hour or bs report

[Antithesis]

It's definitely strange - and out of character - that Simmons hasn't had anything to say about this at all.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

It's definitely strange - and out of character - that Simmons hasn't had anything to say about this at all.

his people are probably negotiating with ESPN whether he leaves now, goes silent until September, or continues as is until September

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

he got suspended for calling out his bosses, not the NFL

he's criticized the NFL and Goodell plenty, but when you dare your bosses to suspend you, it's a dumb thing to do

That's definitely fair enough, but I think there was more to it then what we seen. There was some reports at the time which stated they slapped his hands before, so perhaps it was his way of publically voicing his displeasure. Right or wrong, I don't think it would've just come outta nowhere.

[Antithesis]

From what I've read, it seems ESPN must have been quite angry with Simmons, making public their plan to not re-sign him before his contract ended. There's speculation that it could cost him hundreds of thousands, if not millions, on any new deal due to lose leverage. Can't imagine he particularly feels like producing content for them over the next while.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

From what I've read, it seems ESPN must have been quite angry with Simmons, making public their plan to not re-sign him before his contract ended. There's speculation that it could cost him hundreds of thousands, if not millions, on any new deal due to lose leverage. Can't imagine he particularly feels like producing content for them over the next while.

I don't know, a couple of months ago one of his best buds, JackO tweeted this:

From a report:
"ESPN clearly wants to renew Simmons' deal. It is believed Simmons wants to stay with the company too."


JackO's tweet:

I've known Bill since we were 18 years old. That is the funniest thing anyone has ever written about him.

[Jason14h]

Simmons will sign with Turner sports as they have just signed a huge NBA deal

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

he got suspended for calling out his bosses, not the NFL

he's criticized the NFL and Goodell plenty, but when you dare your bosses to suspend you, it's a dumb thing to do

Wether you have a good point or not has calling out company higher ups ever not resulted in being fired? If Simmons really wanted to continue his career with ESPN it's pretty clear his ego got in the way of common sense.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Don't think many predicted this: Simmons will have a new show on...HBO

Just over a month after rumors surfaced that HBO was pursuing Bill Simmons, the premium cable network and the former ESPN personality announced a multi-year agreement that includes a weekly TV show and a production deal.

As reported by the New York Times‘ John Koblin, Simmons’ new talk show will debut in 2016 and his contract with HBO begins in October. According to The Hollywood Reporter‘s Lacey Rose, the show will not only be available on the regular HBO collection of networks but also on the HBO Go and HBO Now services, featuring stories and guests from both the sports and culture landscapes.

Simmons’ production deal with HBO will include creating video, podcasts and features for the network and its various digital platforms. Additionally, he’ll have a consulting role with HBO Sports working on developing shows and documentaries. (Rose specifically mentioned that Simmons will work with HBO Sports president Ken Hershman on non-boxing-related programming.)

http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/bill...ng-to-hbo.html

[SuperMatt18]

That is exciting.

Simmons was one of the main forces behind 30 for 30 at ESPN. If we can get that quality of Sports documentaries but with the no hold barred aspect that HBO would allow for it could be amazing.

I will likely watch his weekly show as well.

[habernac]

Bill's new podcast is out. Pretty decent. He's hacking on ESPN quite a bit, I would recommend the listen.