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Originally Posted by dsavillian
No criticism here. I really appreciated how you came to me with a no-nonsense offer for our last deal. You set the bar right away and we went from there... much easier than having to find the bar first.
What's your take on the generic value question: "I see you have Tavares on the block, what kind of return are you looking for?"
Same ballpark as "look at my team and tell me what you like"? Or better?
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Very good question and just the type of thing I would hope to be asked because honestly I get hung on this a lot. If the player is on the blocl then odds are I already have a value for him and much easier to but as a team that doesn't use the trade block much I'll answer the question as I'm being asked for a player not on the block
The answer is simple, I do not know because I haven't considered it. I really don't have a price tag on players I have and only know what the price was to acquire them
If a player (tavares) is a key member of my "plan" or team direction and then uprooting him may change my team plan I was building around. I may have never consider what I would value him myself because he's still part of the main focus of my team. So unless I'm changing him with the exact same building block to look into whats possible involves to re-write my plan
If Tavares is a key player in my plan going forward, to look over a roster to see what I would like in return will be tough because my team needs and what I like on your roster will change once Tavares is removed from my team. To approach a deal to move Tavares to your team I need to look over your roster and build a game plan and find a find a fair return, all worth doing if the response after all that work isn't Ok thanks, but I was hoping you would move him for a prospect
Since you haven't offered anything for tavares I don't know if your plan to offers 5 1st round picks or 5 5th round picks value in return. I don't want to put in the work in reviewing and reading up on your team to find out it was a 5 round pick question. By having an offer right off, I can queasily close the door and not waste time reading up and going back and forth in emails.
Odds are if I look over a GM teams for players I like I'll end up naming players i like literally.. and value wise may not make a good trading value. I've always view that question as I'll trade you players you over rate so I can get a higher trading value in return for your player.
Take someone Like Alzner, who isn't on the block. I don't think I could get the value I think he is worth because he has never played that at the NHL. For me he is a dead asset. If someone asked me to look over there roster for something to trade him for i would struggle... his value i perceives is higher then what I would want to ask for and expect to get return. I don't see that happening till emerges as a top defenseman. But if a team said I would give X for him, Im put into a situation of deciding what is better for my team and then maybe ge's gone but until I'm confronted with that option I doubt I'll see him gone
Brandon Sutter I traded Kyle McLaren, Hal Gill, Brian Rolston, Todd Marchant and 22.5M to get him in a deal. If a team ask me what I like from their team for him it's a very hard question for me to answer. I know I'm supposed to forget about what he cost me and just look a Sutter and what I want in return... but the thing is if I paid that much to get him do I really think that the team inquiring for him is going to value him the same. Without that offer it's hard to approach it without thinking any effort I put into this may just be for a 5 or prospect type of fishing
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