Friedman: Flames, Treliving have to show young guys they want to win at deadline

[sureLoss]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/3...ne-crossroads/

They know it will be a surprise if Glencross isn’t traded by Monday. And, they know they will not be as good a team if he is dealt for a draft pick and/or a prospect. GM Brad Treliving was 45 kms away from his group last night, watching Arizona/Islanders, but the Flames are travelling with a heavy organizational presence, so there were plenty of team executives at Madison Square Garden.

They were just as disappointed as the players.

You can see what this means. Calgary knows giving up the future doesn’t make sense. Not at this stage in their growth. But, what Treliving and his staff know is you have to reward your team when it deserves it. You have to show your young guys you’re there to win.

Whatever they get for Glencross (or think they are going to get), they’re going to invest it in this season. Maybe a bigger deal pops up for a good player with term, and the add really jolts the team. But, failing that, they’re going to try and bring in a little something, because they know this group deserves a legit chance.

[Ashasx]

The best way to show that they want to win is to build for the future.

[FlamesAddiction]

I wonder what Sergei Krivokrasov is up to these days.

[PaperBagger'14]

Glencross has not been the make or break player for this team. If we lose him there will be a hole left but stay the course as treliving has stated before.

[Poe969]

I disagree that there will be a hole left. I think that trading Glencross is showing the younger guys on the team that they feel it's the kids turn to take the spot. I don't see trading Glencross as a bad thing, I see it a sign of faith in those young guys.

[Red Menace]

to me this has always been the obvious best plan; trade Glencross and use the picks to improve the bottom pairing D.

[GGG]

I don't like the bolded part.

It seems to imply they would look at a rental.

Would be quite happy with bringing in guys with term that fit the program but no thanks to rentals.

I do agree with the sentiment though that you can't go full fire sale given how hard the team has worked.

[heep223]

Good. They have to stay the course and build for the future, but you can't just use that as an excuse to be sellers at this deadline. After so much hard work this year and being so close to the playoffs the boys deserve a real shot at making it down the stretch.

[SuperMatt18]

Rumor is Washington is interested in Glencross, but they don't want to give up too much in the way of futures.

Flames also may need a d-man. Wonder if something around Glencross for Mike Green could be done. Fills a hole for both team, and allows each team to improve without giving up a substantial piece of the future.

[Flame On]

Man am i the only one that thinks that Glenx leaving is in fact addition by subtraction?!
If he leaves the drama leaves, helping the room.
Also his non hustling, non committed play isn't exactly helping, nor is it a good example for the up and comers.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Rumor is Washington is interested in Glencross, but they don't want to give up too much in the way of futures.

Flames also may need a d-man. Wonder if something around Glencross for Mike Green could be done. Fills a hole for both team, and allows each team to improve without giving up a substantial piece of the future.

what hole does Mike Green fill on the Flames?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by GGG

I don't like the bolded part.

It seems to imply they would look at a rental.

Would be quite happy with bringing in guys with term that fit the program but no thanks to rentals.

I do agree with the sentiment though that you can't go full fire sale given how hard the team has worked.

I think Chris Stewart is plan B. Or plan C, D, whatever. If Treliving can't bring in a player with term left on his contract they might bring in a guy like Stewart for cheap, see what he can do and offer him a contract if he fits in with the team.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Man am i the only one that thinks that Glenx leaving is in fact addition by subtraction?!
If he leaves the drama leaves, helping the room.
Also his non hustling, non committed play isn't exactly helping, nor is it a good example for the up and comers.

You are not the only one by any means.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Man am i the only one that thinks that Glenx leaving is in fact addition by subtraction?!
If he leaves the drama leaves, helping the room.
Also his non hustling, non committed play isn't exactly helping, nor is it a good example for the up and comers.

Count me in that camp too.

[FlamesAddiction]

It's always risky trying to make trades for the future this time of year. The draft, and the offseason in general are the time for that just due to the flexibility teams have then.

If we are going to be a seller or buyer, then fine. But trying to fill holes with longer term solutions at this point could be a mistake. Obviously you have to consider it if the opportunity arises, but I don't think Treliving should feel pressure.

I also agree that trading Glencoss without adding anything would send a bad message to a team that is still in the hunt. While fans might not put a lot of emphasis on this season in respect to the rebuild, the players I am sure still want to win as much as possible and have put a lot of effort into it. Anything that causes mistrust or hard feelings between management and the players needs to be avoided.

Sometimes you need to look at the players as more than just assets. Being a GM is about managing people and personalities as much as it is about managing assets. Teams like Detroit (who I believe we are trying to model after) don't have long term success because they only manage assets well.

[Ashasx]

If we're going to bring in a rental, I'd rather just keep Glencross.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by nik-

what hole does Mike Green fill on the Flames?

He more than addresses the weakness on the 3rd pairing. He skates like our top 4 D and in Hartley's system he'd have a field day.

The Caps would be fools to do that deal. But all the same.

[Fan in Exile]

Glencross had no points in five games before he got injured. Since he's back he has only one assist in seven games. He's also a -5 in the time frame.

The Flames record with him since the new year is 5-7-1.

The Flames record while he was injured from January 17 to February 6th was 6-3.

If we're talking about what he brings to the club right now, I don't see how trading Glencross sends the wrong message to the club, particularly given that he's made it clear he's unhappy and wants to be dealt.

So count me in the addition by subtraction camp.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by nik-

what hole does Mike Green fill on the Flames?

Another d-man who can move the puck, and will improve our PP. With Diaz emerging it is less of a need, but the 3rd pairing is a black hole at moving the puck right now.

The team is successful when we can play with pace because of our mobile d-men, and the 3rd pairing prevents that right now.

Brodie-Giordano
Russell- Wideman
Smid - Green

Engelland

Looks alright to me. Mike Green isn't amazing but he would be a damn helpful d-man on this team.

It also might not be just a rental. Mike Green is from Calgary, spends his summers here, and we could have the inside track on re-signing him for a "home town discount" of sorts.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

If we're going to bring in a rental, I'd rather just keep Glencross.

Would rather deal Glencross for picks and find a cheaper rental. I don't think we are getting another rental though, pretty sure we'll just use Granlund.