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Old 08-15-2012, 04:09 PM   #1
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Default Woman died in arms of injured husband after alleged drunk driving crash

Haven't seen a thread on this topic yet. Accused has Balfour Der as his lawyer so I bet he gets a slap on the wrist

http://www.canada.com/technology/Wom...914/story.html

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Smith, 38, was killed when the 2001 Ford F150 pickup truck she was in was T-boned by a 2009 Mercedes-Benz C63AMG sedan on Bow Trail S.W. near Sarcee Trail around 3:15 a.m. Sunday morning.
The truck spun and struck a large power pole about 60 metres away. Both occupants were ejected.
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Balfour Der is a tool.
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:18 PM   #3
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Balfour Der is a tool.
Well just look at his last name derrr!
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Balfour Der is a tool.
Wait... what? The guy who was driving is the tool.
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ah man. this is terrible.

were the people who got ejected not wearing seat belts?
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:20 PM   #6
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Not to downplay the drunk driving aspect, but were they wearing seatbelts? If not they both could be alive today, the drunk driver walked away unharmed.
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Yes, both victims were wearing seatbelts but the accused ran a red light going 180km/hour

Both were ejected
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:21 PM   #8
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Yes, both victims were wearing seatbelts but the accused ran a red light going 180km/hour

Both were ejected
That doesn't make any sense. Where is it reported he was doing 180? The photo of the victim's truck doesn't look like it was torn in two, where it would be possible for them to be ejected..
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Something doesn't add up. How do you get ejected from a vehicle while wearing a seat belt?
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:30 PM   #10
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Something doesn't add up. How do you get ejected from a vehicle while wearing a seat belt?
You don't.
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That doesn't make any sense. Where is it reported he was doing 180? The photo of the victim's truck doesn't look like it was torn in two, where it would be possible for them to be ejected..
Unconfirmed reports that he was going 180
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I think I read the truck spun out of control and hit a pole, which then ejected both people out of the car. I hope the drunk driver gets punished to the full extent of the law, but its so sad to see the death probably could have been prevented had they wore their seatbelts.

To be clear, I'm not condoning the actions of the drunk driver whatsoever. It's still 100% his fault.

Edit: Wow, my reading skills suck...
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Something doesn't add up. How do you get ejected from a vehicle while wearing a seat belt?
Maybe the entire seat got dislodged? I have no idea
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:48 PM   #14
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I have come across accidents with people either outside of the seatbelt or partially outside of it with the belt still buckled. Seat belts don't stop your body from leaving the seat in all types of crashes (for that you would need a 6 point harness).

Because they were ejected doesn't neccessarily mean they weren't wearing them (and properly).
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:51 PM   #15
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Balfour Der is a tool.
Do you know the guy? Cuz I do, and he ain't a tool. Don't be an ass. I'm guessing you think all defense attorneys are slimy right?
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Because they were ejected doesn't neccessarily mean they weren't wearing them (and properly).
Exactly. I don't think people should make assumptions here. We don't know for sure.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:23 PM   #17
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Do you know the guy? Cuz I do, and he ain't a tool. Don't be an ass. I'm guessing you think all defense attorneys are slimy right?
I don't know the guy, but every time i see him on tv, he sure sounds and looks like a slimy defense attorney.

It boggles the mind how drunk drivers aren't given murder charges when they kill. Pathetic human beings.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:59 PM   #18
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Driving drunk at a speculated 180 km/h and killing someone deserves a murder charge IMO. This guy wouldn't get a second chance if it were up to me. On that subject, how long is he likely to spend behind bars if found guilty (seems like a slam-dunk).
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It boggles the mind how drunk drivers aren't given murder charges when they kill. Pathetic human beings.
By that reasoning we should just change the dui charge to attempted murder.
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I agree that you can't call it murder because proving intent is impossible. But vehicular manslaughter charges definitely deserve to have much, much stiffer penalties.
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